【 Eyes Wide Open 】TWICE Sales & Achievements Official Thread

colorpop

Stan
Joined
Jul 2, 2020
Posts
154
Reaction score
77
Points
870
Plus Coins
⨭84,800


It looks to me like TWICE traded their Korean/Japan popularity for international one.
Maybe that's what JYPE planned all along - to leave those markets for ITZY and NiziU
 

oldtimer

Lurker
Joined
Oct 9, 2020
Posts
49
Reaction score
25
Points
120
Plus Coins
⨭27,100
Well, companies do tend to focus on their younger groups so best not to expect much from them next year.
 

colorpop

Stan
Joined
Jul 2, 2020
Posts
154
Reaction score
77
Points
870
Plus Coins
⨭84,800
Well, companies do tend to focus on their younger groups so best not to expect much from them next year.

Yeah, just kinda salty that TWICE was 3,5 years into their successful career when it started, while their competitors are only now getting inhouse competition, despite being longer on stage.
 

NewUser

Stan
Joined
Sep 25, 2019
Posts
213
Reaction score
146
Points
1,970
Plus Coins
⨭90,850


It looks to me like TWICE traded their Korean/Japan popularity for international one.
Maybe that's what JYPE planned all along - to leave those markets for ITZY and NiziU

Struggle is real in SK. I remember last year Fancy came out after KTL and still got more views in SK. M&M couldn't even get in with a 4 month headstart on Lovesick Girls this year.
 

oldtimer

Lurker
Joined
Oct 9, 2020
Posts
49
Reaction score
25
Points
120
Plus Coins
⨭27,100
Struggle is real in SK. I remember last year Fancy came out after KTL and still got more views in SK. M&M couldn't even get in with a 4 month headstart on Lovesick Girls this year.
Mismanagement. Failed marketing tactics. A very polarizing song lol
 

Dreamer95

Stan
Joined
Jun 27, 2019
Posts
260
Reaction score
116
Points
2,720
Location
Europe
Plus Coins
⨭87,025
Did J onces actually boycott Twice single? I mean what's going on, that was way too low for a single even considering everything that have been told.
 

oldtimer

Lurker
Joined
Oct 9, 2020
Posts
49
Reaction score
25
Points
120
Plus Coins
⨭27,100
Did J onces actually boycott Twice single? I mean what's going on, that was way too low for a single even considering everything that have been told.
"Boycott" is a strong word. But I believe they just bought less copies that they usually do because hit rate are abysmal (thanks Warner JP) so the single is basically a scam. Add to the fact that there were issues with the recent online hi-touch (only 5 secs, can't add use all tickets at the same time to add time, tech issues, etc.). In short, there was no incentive for them to actually buy a lot ergo the low sales. And unlike Kr albums, i-onces dont really buy the singles.
 

zai

HIP HOP RAPPER
Early Supporters
Joined
Jun 16, 2019
Posts
928
Reaction score
464
Points
3,770
Location
Twiceland
Plus Coins
⨭114,190
lets hope 2021 will be better.. i really want to know till the end what is jype plan. if they didnt respect Twice even a bit when they saved this shitty company im swear ill quit kpop forever, im done.

twice itzy niziu in 2021 will be interesting.

personally for me, jype actually still had a chance to dominate with the groups they have, but they are really stupid tbh, someone need to tell the management it is worth to FUCKING INVEST MORE! also pls no more bad song choice. the A/R decision need to step up
 

colorpop

Stan
Joined
Jul 2, 2020
Posts
154
Reaction score
77
Points
870
Plus Coins
⨭84,800
lets hope 2021 will be better.. i really want to know till the end what is jype plan. if they didnt respect Twice even a bit when they saved this shitty company im swear ill quit kpop forever, im done.

twice itzy niziu in 2021 will be interesting.

personally for me, jype actually still had a chance to dominate with the groups they have, but they are really stupid tbh, someone need to tell the management it is worth to FUCKING INVEST MORE! also pls no more bad song choice. the A/R decision need to step up

It's been said in this thread before, but if you compare today's MAMA JYP acts stages, judging from sets and overall production, JYPE is planning to dominate with Stray Kids lol.

I have a feeling Cry For Me was originally planned to be used as a repackage track. It's too good for MAMA with no digital release at all.
 
Last edited:

oldtimer

Lurker
Joined
Oct 9, 2020
Posts
49
Reaction score
25
Points
120
Plus Coins
⨭27,100
It's been said in this thread before, but if you compare today's MAMA JYP acts stages, judging from sets and overall production, JYPE is planning to dominate with Stray Kids lol.

I have a feeling Cry For Me was originally planned to be used as a repackage track. It's too good for MAMA with no digital release at all.
I think they're still gonna release Cry For Me as a repack title or b-side. So far the reactions have been more on the positive side. And can I just say that it would have been nice to have ICSM and Cry For Me as the comeback title songs this year, instead of M&M.
 

colorpop

Stan
Joined
Jul 2, 2020
Posts
154
Reaction score
77
Points
870
Plus Coins
⨭84,800
I think they're still gonna release Cry For Me as a repack title or b-side. So far the reactions have been more on the positive side. And can I just say that it would have been nice to have ICSM and Cry For Me as the comeback title songs this year, instead of M&M.

Not only it had the same people in production team, they even used same samples here and there. Should have been some connection to ICSM, probably. It make sense if it was planned as title track for repackage, imo.

Maybe we'll have it as a bside on some of the future minis. Smth like breakthrough korean ver.
 

zai

HIP HOP RAPPER
Early Supporters
Joined
Jun 16, 2019
Posts
928
Reaction score
464
Points
3,770
Location
Twiceland
Plus Coins
⨭114,190
It's been said in this thread before, but if you compare today's MAMA JYP acts stages, judging from sets and overall production, JYPE is planning to dominate with Stray Kids lol.

I have a feeling Cry For Me was originally planned to be used as a repackage track. It's too good for MAMA with no digital release at all.
i mean if we are being honest, skz only need to blew up in korea to dominate next gen kpop, and remember fangirls are loyal af. not surprised they are the most invested group in whole jyp ent. good for them to be honest SKZ growth is insane this year like 150% growth, remind me of 2015 BTS growth. so i think its fair to invest in them.

i just want their A/R decision to not making more mistake like this year, pls only choose GOOD SONG if you want release a single, not 1 good song and 1 average song according to their QUALITY CONTROL like this year for example:

TWICE
m&m = average song
icsm = great song

ITZY
wannabe = great song
not shy = average song

NIZIU
make you happy = great song
step and step = average song

i know its hard to maintain the QUALITY but they need to INVEST more in production if they want to survive 3 of them, personally i still have faith in them but if they want fail to dominate all gg market concept then. pls no more bad A/R decision 2021
 

NewUser

Stan
Joined
Sep 25, 2019
Posts
213
Reaction score
146
Points
1,970
Plus Coins
⨭90,850
JYPE are not big enough to adequately promote/manage multiple groups, especially it they want to keep their margins as high as possible which is what they use Twice for mainly.

Twice were pretty much done when JYPE decided to debut all these groups whilst Twice were still at the top. There's already more groups in the pipeline for next year, including the joint survival show one with Psy, so it'll only get worse.
 

colorpop

Stan
Joined
Jul 2, 2020
Posts
154
Reaction score
77
Points
870
Plus Coins
⨭84,800
Dude, Cry for Me grew on me so much, I hope JYPE will utilize it properly. I think MAMA version lacked proper mixing (vocals were too quiet in some parts), but if JYPE add some polish and maybe even film some kind of MV or performance version it will be great. A true gift to the fans.

BBC did it for Loona recently, when Voice got great reviews, interesting to see if JYP has the same level of ambitions and resources for it's most successful group ever. I mean, Stray Kids used to release some kind of small MV every month, so it's nothing new for JYPE.
 

oldtimer

Lurker
Joined
Oct 9, 2020
Posts
49
Reaction score
25
Points
120
Plus Coins
⨭27,100
They are definitely doing something with Cry For Me. I hope they release it before year end shows so they can perform the song (assuming gayos are still happening given the situation in Korea).
 

colorpop

Stan
Joined
Jul 2, 2020
Posts
154
Reaction score
77
Points
870
Plus Coins
⨭84,800
Well, now I'm hopeful for MV. There is no point in postponing release for almost two weeks if they are not going to add some content to it.
 
Top Bottom