【 Eyes Wide Open 】TWICE Sales & Achievements Official Thread

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People also can't use the bullshit Suzy excuse because regardless Jackson was still promoting solo anyway and spent most of the last 2 years in China promoting so I would love for once the company to come out and let us know why they are so so anti solo promo in Korea even tho the rest of the idol industry is doing it?
Maybe JYP got an omen from that cult he's in
 

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JYP will never let them promote separately unfortunately. Even members of things like Gidle, Izone and OMG are getting solo promotions, cf's, songs, etc but JYP hasn't trended toward that at all for Twice.

Honestly seeing the stuff recently about Got7 has really exposed JYP Entertainment for me. Everything from deleting pictures with Jinyoung, shady posts or liking shady posts from the members or their families, etc.

Honestly now seeing Jackson Wang's story getting picked up by big media outlets including NME reading about how JYP Entertainment stopped him from promoting in Korea is so weird to me. Like it paints a picture of a strange personal problem from JYP rather than anything business related. Promoting in Korea would in no way negatively impact Jackson, Got7 or JYPE as a whole so who was the person who would let him promote everywhere else sans Korea? And what possible reason could be behind it?

Looking at his success in China and even charting on BB200 and getting a collab in the USA you can see without the company support this guy had potential to be a successful soloist in Korea too but JYP blocked it? Huh?
People also can't use the bullshit Suzy excuse because regardless Jackson was still promoting solo anyway and spent most of the last 2 years in China promoting so I would love for once the company to come out and let us know why they are so so anti solo promo in Korea even tho the rest of the idol industry is doing it?

I've got the impression this Jackson in Korea ban was enforced regarding Jackson's own company, "team Wang" or smth.
Which is completely understandable from business point of view.
 

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I've got the impression this Jackson in Korea ban was enforced regarding Jackson's own company, "team Wang" or smth.
Which is completely understandable from business point of view.
The thing is tho, why? You can only get a situation like Team Wang spawn from a company and idol having difference in direction. Clearly Jackson wants to do solo work and has to form his own company/management to do so? I really don't understand that.

This makes me question if when the girls in Twice say they are focused on the 'team' and they want to promote together for as long as they can do they mean it or if they are just towing the company line and indeed some(if not all) desire to try solo things while also promoting as Twice.
Would this mean those members would also have to form their own company to do so? Even in doing that would they find themselves blocked from Korea or other countries by JYP Entertainment also?

It's just so stifling from JYPE and doesn't seem to be in line with the Kpop zeitgeist right now when you consider Red Velvet, BlackPink, Idle, IzOne, Oh My Girl, Exo, NCT, TxT, Winner, Gfriend, Ikon, etc even BTS have all had some kind of solo/sub unit push over the last few years and the only ones who really haven't are Twice and Itzy-even Stray Kids got sub units.

What is JYP's thinking is what I want to know as Twice and Itzy are both fading in their primary markets.
 
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The thing is tho, why? You can only get a situation like Team Wang spawn from a company and idol having difference in direction. Clearly Jackson wants to do solo work and has to form his own company/management to do so? I really don't understand that.

This makes me question if when the girls in Twice say they are focused on the 'team' and they want to promote together for as long as they can do they mean it or if they are just towing the company line and indeed some(if not all) desire to try solo things while also promoting as Twice.
Would this mean those members would also have to form their own company to do so? Even in doing that would they find themselves blocked from Korea or other countries by JYP Entertainment also?

It's just so stifling from JYPE and doesn't seem to be in line with the Kpop zeitgeist right now when you consider Red Velvet, BlackPink, Idle, IzOne, Oh My Girl, Exo, NCT, TxT, Winner, Gfriend, Ikon, etc even BTS have all had some kind of solo/sub unit push over the last few years and the only ones who really haven't are Twice and Itzy-even Stray Kids got sub units.

What is JYP's thinking is what I want to know as Twice and Itzy are both fading in their primary markets.

The fact that they're not vocal about much is in some ways worse as if it's just acceptance that whilst under contract this is what they'll have to do it'll just fester. Even Got7 weren't expecting all 7 to not re-sign, only the more vocal ones.

I still can't believe the 2nd biggest group in a big 3 company, the biggest bg, all up and left as soon as their contract ended and are already plying there trade elsewhere as a group. For all 7 to leave for the good of the group and themselves says so much about the label yet some Twice fans still think there's no fundamental issues at the company and that they're trying their hardest for the group/doing everything the members want just because Twice aren't very vocal(unlike some Got7/Day6 members). JYPE not even attempting to promote their final comeback under the company was also incredibly petty.
 

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jype is so deficient in so many aspects that is actually amazing how small companies are humiliating them in so many areas, oh my girl company is doing a way better job. They released the Momo Performance Project teaser 4 days before the mv and instead of including the exact date of release they put "Coming Soon" not allowing the fandom to prepare and hype it more, just another example how the company is brainless.
 

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jype is so deficient in so many aspects that is actually amazing how small companies are humiliating them in so many areas, oh my girl company is doing a way better job. They released the Momo Performance Project teaser 4 days before the mv and instead of including the exact date of release they put "Coming Soon" not allowing the fandom to prepare and hype it more, just another example how the company is brainless.

At least it'll help nail into some peoples heads that all these "projects" and covers are, are side pieces. There is no attempt at pushing any of these solo/sub-unit projects massively like an actual push would (original promoted music, acting, variety gigs etc). No matter how much money they put in it's done in a way to keep any kind of solo push on a leash and placates the naive part of the fandom.
 
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At least it'll help nail into some peoples heads that all these "projects" and covers are, are side pieces. There is no attempt at pushing any of these solo/sub-unit projects massively like an actual push would (original promoted music, acting, variety gigs etc). No matter how much money they put in it's done in a way to keep any kind of solo push on a leash and placates the naive part of the fandom.
Someone in twitter mentioned how all these projects felt rushed and is lowkey like that, even when this is better than before, when TWICE was getting NOTHING from the company, isn't still what they deserve and should get. I'm just hoping this is the beginning and we will get a good management and promotions for the group and the girls.

With 0 promotions or hype built, Sana entered Itunes Worldwide #32, topped Itunes #1 in 3 countries, top 10 in 10+ countries, top 100 in Japan the second biggest itunes chart after the US, Line Music real time Top 10, Line Music daily chart and Recochoku singles and albums daily charts, all that with an unpromoted cover of a old song, this is her first solo project ever and is doing numbers, this is kinda promising.

Did the idiots at JYPE finally opened their eyes at all the TWICE's members potential they wasted these years? I hope so, a little hope in that trash company is waking up in me again. I just wish they start thinking smartly, Sana, Momo, Mina and Tzuyu have potential in Japan to help increase the group popularity and expand success, with Nayeon, Jeongyeon, Jihyo, Dahyun, Chaeyoung and Tzuyu (she was also hugely popular before and she has the type of visual the general public likes) promoting in Korea in different areas. We need more CFs and brand deals, OST and more covers release, more appearances in TV both in Korea and Japan, more performances and dance covers, better presence in SNS, those are the things that help increase the fandom.
 

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Someone in twitter mentioned how all these projects felt rushed and is lowkey like that, even when this is better than before, when TWICE was getting NOTHING from the company, isn't still what they deserve and should get. I'm just hoping this is the beginning and we will get a good management and promotions for the group and the girls.

With 0 promotions or hype built, Sana entered Itunes Worldwide #32, topped Itunes #1 in 3 countries, top 10 in 10+ countries, top 100 in Japan the second biggest itunes chart after the US, Line Music real time Top 10, Line Music daily chart and Recochoku singles and albums daily charts, all that with an unpromoted cover of a old song, this is her first solo project ever and is doing numbers, this is kinda promising.

Did the idiots at JYPE finally opened their eyes at all the TWICE's members potential they wasted these years? I hope so, a little hope in that trash company is waking up in me again. I just wish they start thinking smartly, Sana, Momo, Mina and Tzuyu have potential in Japan to help increase the group popularity and expand success, with Nayeon, Jeongyeon, Jihyo, Dahyun, Chaeyoung and Tzuyu (she was also hugely popular before and she has the type of visual the general public likes) promoting in Korea in different areas. We need more CFs and brand deals, OST and more covers release, more appearances in TV both in Korea and Japan, more performances and dance covers, better presence in SNS, those are the things that help increase the fandom.

The solo "work" is just incredibly slow, tentative, restrictive and safe so far, not really befitting a group of Twice's size and years.

But then tentative, safe, restrictive and uncreative are pretty much some of the best words you could have used to describe JYPE's approach to Twice group activities for a very long time, they were renowned for playing it safe with them, so I'm not even surprised that even 6 years in this is how they plan to approach any solo stuff.

They don't think it's profitable enough clearly or they would make some genuine attempts at solo work and not throw stuff out with no notice or desire to promote anything outside of the members doing it themselves through social media. Just make it seem like an afterthought and lets them double down that all these are are side projects and fans need to keep their eyes on the prize (the more profitable group work in the short run for the company). Or it's an incredibly cynical move to make the group/members very dependent on the company. It will come don to money or money.

I honestly think there's no JYPE plan with these projects other than to try and placate some fans before they start pumping out stuff again to sell. We know Warner and not JYPE asked for the Momo/Sana video appearance so all JYPE have done is the Dubchaeng and Momo melody/performance projects and there's never been any direction or plan with these projects.
 
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The solo "work" is just incredibly slow, tentative, restrictive and safe so far, not really befitting a group of Twice's size and years.

But then tentative, safe, restrictive and uncreative are pretty much some of the best words you could have used to describe JYPE's approach to Twice group activities for a very long time, they were renowned for playing it safe with them, so I'm not even surprised that even 6 years in this is how they plan to approach any solo stuff.

They don't think it's profitable enough clearly or they would make some genuine attempts at solo work and not throw stuff out with no notice or desire to promote anything outside of the members doing it themselves through social media. Just make it seem like an afterthought and lets them double down that all these are are side projects and fans need to keep their eyes on the prize (the more profitable group work in the short run for the company). Or it's an incredibly cynical move to make the group/members very dependent on the company. It will come don to money or money.

I honestly think there's no JYPE plan with these projects other than to try and placate some fans before they start pumping out stuff again to sell. We know Warner and not JYPE asked for the Momo/Sana video appearance so all JYPE have done is the Dubchaeng and Momo melody/performance projects and there's never been any direction or plan with these projects.
My only hope is that this is just the beginning and the full and better stuff and promotions are coming soon, jype along with rr and wmj keep being trash but I'm still holding my hopes here.

Those poorly hyped and promoted projects did better than some ones from whole groups, so the potential is there and TWICE has made enough money to invest in those projects but we know the money from TWICE activities goes to anyone except them in the company, specially jyp flop projects who is also managed by division 3 so the focus is not on TWICE just like jyp said himself some days ago.

Just look how Momo performance video has been trending in China biggest video platform for days


 

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So it seems like day6 is going for April comeback. Kind of weird since I've expected ITZY to be announced first to return in March, but it's actually in line with recent JYPE's plans report. Looks like TWICE indeed aint coming back until second half of 2021.

I'm ok with it as lonп as it's not a "summer song" type of release.
 
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A summer song could be good if they do it right, jype messed up M&M completely. I want to see what kind of summer MV TWICE can get now since trash Naive is out of the equation.
 

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Yeah, maybe, it's just my own wish since I'm not the biggest summer vibe fan.

As for "trash NAIVE". Those new guys did the same cheap CG mess recent NAIVE production was criticised for. And taking into consideration their filmography (it seems like Cant's Stop Me was their absolute best and most high-budget MV), I'm afraid we'll soon be asking to bring NAIVE back.
 

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Imagine thinking we want another situation like 2020 where half of the year is wasted not releasing any music, promoting in Korea or Japan.

A potential late Q2 release or worse? Why?
 

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Imagine thinking we want another situation like 2020 where half of the year is wasted not releasing any music, promoting in Korea or Japan.

A potential late Q2 release or worse? Why?

Tzuyu just announced next TTT (already filmed), I guess the idea is to go for fandom-oriented content till summer, probably.
 

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The new production team did nothing amazing with ICSM MV and it has faults, it's far from what a group like TWICE deserves and yet is way above all the shit Naive produced these years, and that's clear after you see how ICSM broke almost all TWICE's youtube records and has a great longevity in views, it surpassed More and More boring MV in a matter of 3 months lol. Jype just have to find a better and more creative production team and give them the budget and creative freedom they need, I know those idiots keep pushing the "this don't fit TWICE image" bullshit.
 

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The new production team did nothing amazing with ICSM MV and it has faults, it's far from what a group like TWICE deserves and yet is way above all the shit Naive produced these years, and that's clear after you see how ICSM broke almost all TWICE's youtube records and has a great longevity in views, it surpassed More and More boring MV in a matter of 3 months lol. Jype just have to find a better and more creative production team and give them the budget and creative freedom they need, I know those idiots keep pushing the "this don't fit TWICE image" bullshit.

I tihink it's more about budget rather than creativity at this point.

Recent TWICE MVs (except for FS - JYP song obviously) were clearly lacking budget, expecially in comparison to Cheer Up, Likey, Signal. ICSM was a full album title track MV and TWICE still had a very limited resources you can't really compare to Stray Kids or Blackpink full album videos.

Let's hope JYP himself graces us with his composing genius for next CB.
 

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I tihink it's more about budget rather than creativity at this point.

Recent TWICE MVs (except for FS - JYP song obviously) were clearly lacking budget, expecially in comparison to Cheer Up, Likey, Signal. ICSM was a full album title track MV and TWICE still had a very limited resources you can't really compare to Stray Kids or Blackpink full album videos.

Let's hope JYP himself graces us with his composing genius for next CB.
It's true, that God's Menu Stray Kids MV got more budget than M&M and ICSM, also they get MVs for lot of bsides since debut, it's crazy.
 

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The second fandom are now claiming Cheer Up's most weeks record. Man, is a little bit of a shame too much to ask? Just a tiny bit man, at least put some * before and after the change thing, have some decency, how can people live their lives like this?

 
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