[Pannchoa] Suspicious fans recalculates the final X1 member lineup: Kim Wooseok, the original center, and Kim Mingyu the original X, etc.

[Astro]

"Calculations about the suspicions about the votes being rigged"

Ever since this morning, there was a controversy about the votes being rigged, so I tried to calculate myself.

There was this part that really really stood out to me that looked so weird.

For reference I will share what I found.



[Organizing in 3 lines]

1. On the last voting, looking at the benefits, the votes that the #10th received was just multiples and divisions of 7,494 and you could see that Tony's votes were added to the other X1 members (t/n: basically they added Tony + Lee Saejin = Kang Minhee, Tony + Kim Mingyu = Cha Junho, Tony + Song Hyungjoon = Kim Yohan, etc.)



2. We still don't don't why they had to multiply or divide, but we removed Tony's votes (The benefits) to re-arrange the ranking



3. Personally, I feel like the new ranking ranking makes more sense, the new people who went up are the ones who benefited from being the PD picks

1. 4 suspicions over the last ranking (You will understand if you looked at the votes below)

(t/n: the highlighted ones are: Kim Yohan, Song Hyungjoon, Nam Dohyun and Song Yuvin)



Suspicion #1 The law of multiples

Each vote were multiples of 7497,445 (the #10's votes = 749,444) and they distributed like that, so the numbers just dropped drastically.

However, Lee Jinhyuk and Goo Jungmo's numbers are the only ones who have a 0.04 difference with other ranks, the 2 difference scale are the same

In other words, Lee Jinhyuk is just a bit lower (-0.04) and Goo Jungmo just a little bit higher (+0.04)

If you consider the fact that Lee Jinhyuk could've been the #11, there must've been a reason why they purposefully brought him down



Suspicion 1.1 Using the same multiples to add and subtract

They used 100 as a base to separate the multiples, so that 1~9 were divided by 100, and 11~20 was divided by 100. From 1 to 9 the divider was 279 and from 11-20 the divider was also 279

In other words, the #10's total was 749,444 (common divider) and the difference between the scale from above and below are the same.

Suspicion #2 Traces of the special number (Tony's votes)

Lee Saejin + Tony = Kang Minhee

Kim Mingyu + Tony = Cha Junho

Song Yuvin + Tony = Nam Dohyun

Nam Dohyun + Tony = Song Hyungjoon

Lee Hangyul + Tony = Han Seungwoo

Song Hyungjoon + Tony = Kim Yohan



Those who received a "buff/manipulated" votes:

#18 -> #10

#17 -> #9

#16 -> #8

#8 -> #4

#7 -> #3

#4 -> #1

2. The recalculated ranking

I recalculated everything removing Tony's added votes. You can see that the new ranking makes way more sense



(first ranking: including Tony's votes and rigging the votes)

1. Kim Yohan

2. Kim Wooseok

3. Han Seungwoo

4. Song Hyungjoon

5. Cho Seungyoun

6. Son Dongpyo

7. Lee Hangyul

8. Nam Dohyun

9. Cha Junho

10. Kang Minhee

11. Lee Jinhyuk

12. Goo Jungmo

13. Lee Eunsang

14. Geum Donghyun

15. Hwang Yunseong

16. Song Yuvin

17. Kim Mingyu

18. Lee Saejin

19. Ham Wonjin

20. Tony



(new ranking by removing the additional votes from Tony)

1. Kim Wooseok : passed

2. Kim Yohan: passed

3. Cho Seungyoun : passed

4. Son Dongpyo : passed

5. Han Seungwoo : passed

6. Lee Hangyul : passed

7. Song Hyungjoon : passed

8. Lee Jinhyuk: passed, but actually didn't make it

9. Goo Jungmo: passed, but actually didn't make it

10. Lee Eunsang: passed, was the X

11. Geum Donghyun

12. Hwang Yunseong

13. Nam Dohyun: Actually made it

14. Song Yuvin

15. Cha Junho: Actually made it

16. Kim Mingyu: The actual X

17. Kang Minhee

18. Lee Saejin

19. Ham Wonjin

20. Tony





post response:

[+1,740][-85]

original post: here

1. [+342, -11]
Goo Jungmo was really the #9 until the end F*CK how did he end up there

2. [+229, -5]
If you're telling me that this is real, the trainees who were originally eliminated must be f*cking embarrassed right now

3. [+186, -7]
But it's true that the original center was Kim Wooseok? Why are they even changing the center..? Do you know how important the center is for Produce groups? They really changed it however they want

4. [+138, -0]
What the f*ck if this is the truth, and they really manipulated Lee Jinhyuk, Goo Jungmo and Kim Mingyu could've debuted and the center could've been Kim Wooseok??? The members changing is an issue in itself but isn't it too problematic that they even changed the center..?

5. [+137, -0]
Tony f*ck he's f*cking pitiful, they even used his votes for this

Source

 

[OutroTearTheFirst]

are we shocked mnet did this lmao. they rig their own award shows. they have a hand at being national producers every season. that being said, i love this lineup lmao, but i do feel bad for the ones screwed over

 

[MicrowavedTea]

Not like it's not rigged the previous seasons :tea1:

 

[Beefy]

Ifans are really being fucking hypocrites about this, kfans paid money to vote and they still got screwed over. And if the lineup changes are true so were the TOP boys. I can see why they're upset and we shouldn't ignore because the "lineup is good". Like ffs, where is the energy people had the previous seasons?

 

[asdfg]

# hashtag everyone know sakura chan should have been #1

 

[Astro]

# hashtag everyone know sakura chan should have been #1

True but the knet backlash would of been too much

 

[sm maid]

the joblessness of it all... I guess they would just want the top to remain the same from ep 1 to 12, since they're mad about having like 2 surprises lol people were complaining the rankings were predictable too before... there's no winning

 

[lovenatu]

I’ve never understood why Mnet would rig the results. Wouldn’t it benefit them to have the popular members, so then the group would have a bigger fandom and earn more money? The only reason I could see why they would rig the results is because companies bribe them but most of these companies aren’t big enough for that.

 

[Hangyulbiased]

The lineup ain’t changing so get over it already . Also Mnet did good by leaving mingyu and Jungmo out. Should’ve rid song Hyungjoon too rofl

 

[Chiharu]

I wonder if mnet will address this controversy. I don't expect them to admit to it, but if it's true, the best thing for them to do would be to just add Jungmo, Mingyu, and Junhyuk to the group.

 

[Sunny]

No point in getting salty over the lineup now. WBK that MNET has been doing this since forever, yet after getting called out for it multiple times, they've never changed. I feel bad for the trainees who couldn't make it because of this foul play, but at the end of the day, changing top 11 would only serve to land X1 in a bigger hole.

Tony was really fucked over huh

Biased, but seeing seungyoun at 3 without the added votes is

 

[Yeddong]

Wbk Yiren was robbed from the #1.

 

[HwangMinhyun]

The lineup ain’t changing so get over it already . Also Mnet did good by leaving mingyu and Jungmo out. Should’ve rid song Hyungjoon too rofl

We are gonna get 5 years of cringe aegyo lol

 

[sexy cutie]

mnet does whatever they want either ways

 

[minto]

I’ve never understood why Mnet would rig the results. Wouldn’t it benefit them to have the popular members, so then the group would have a bigger fandom and earn more money? The only reason I could see why they would rig the results is because companies bribe them but most of these companies aren’t big enough for that.

Idk if you followed the show at all?
But objectively, I can understand why they did this.

Minkyu debuting with them could be disastrous
Some fans, not wanting to be ridiculed for following a group with a talentless member, might be discouraged from following the group even when their picks got in.

It makes sense to include Junho, cuz he was the original hype boy and it was proven that he's actually talented.
His singing in Me After You, his Woollim quality dancing in U Got It.
He's just more reserved and doesn't know how to promote himself.

Anyway, the show was rigged from Day 1 ever since they gave the Starship trainees a ridiculous amount of screentime.

I'm just relieved that my picks still made it based on the "actual" list.

 

[SLY]

Idk if you followed the show at all?
But objectively, I can understand why they did this.

Minkyu debuting with them could be disastrous
Some fans, not wanting to be ridiculed for following a group with a talentless member, might be discouraged from following the group even when their picks got in.

It makes sense to include Junho, cuz he was the original hype boy and it was proven that he's actually talented.
His singing in Me After You, his Woollim quality dancing in U Got It.
He's just more reserved and doesn't know how to promote himself.

Anyway, the show was rigged from Day 1 ever since they gave the Starship trainees a ridiculous amount of screentime.

I'm just relieved that my picks still made it based on the "actual" list.

Hey I followed the show, perhaps my opinion is valid now, huh?

We. Need. The. Real. Lineup.

Kfans paid for the votes and people act as if it's perfectly okay that Mnet manipulates it just to bring in an ideal lineup?

My 1pick is Chajun but if his inclusion is caused by manipulation then color me unimpressed.

 

[minto]

Hey I followed the show, perhaps my opinion is valid now, huh?

We. Need. The. Real. Lineup.

Kfans paid for the votes and people act as if it's perfectly okay that Mnet manipulates it just to bring in an ideal lineup?

My 1pick is Chajun but if his inclusion is caused by manipulation then color me unimpressed.

I never said that it was fine that they did that
The user was wondering about the possible reasons, I merely provided my pov

 

[Zent]

Minkyu debuting with them could be disastrous
Some fans, not wanting to be ridiculed for following a group with a talentless member, might be discouraged from following the group even when their picks got in.

Previous season tho

 

[Turtle]

So is it ok to disregard all kfans who voted and all his effort just to fit others? What is the point of the program then?
Minkyu jungmo and jinhyuk deserve to debut and wooseok deserve to be the center not because I don’t like the current lineup and center but because that’s the right thing

 

[Lilac]

Too much drama lol