NewJeans opens YouTube account to express their feelings on HYBE x Min Heejin feud.

[fromisJelly]

 

[Polaris_Tae]

Welp, I don't see this being any good for either MHJ or New Jeans
It's literal career suicide atp.
Giving an ultimatum to the CEO of a conglomerate will never end well for them

 

[fromisJelly]

Welp, I don't see this being any good for either MHJ or New Jeans
It's literal career suicide atp.
Giving an ultimatum to the CEO of a conglomerate will never end well for them

While Knetzs will support NJS and MHJ taengew, what NJS just did is such a big risk. It can be breach of contract..etc


I really loathe that NJS is totally brainwashed by MHJ to this point. While HYBE is bad, MHJ isn't any better.

 

[fromisJelly]

Also I want to point out something. Just as ILLIT put out news that they are going to have a comeback in October, this happen. Coincidence? I think not.

 

[hatmixx]

wait. they opened the channel for like an 20 mins then deleted it???

 

[BianTwo]

It was impossible for both side to work together without issue after all this mess.

And that video was the final nail into the coffin

The channel didn't survive long but I think the only aim was to send a message

 

[Bchip]

 

[fromisJelly]

wait. they opened the channel for like an 20 mins then deleted it???

Maybe Hybe Staffs found out and demanded them to do it on the spot.

It was impossible for both side to work together without issue after all this mess.

And that video was the final nail into the coffin

The channel didn't survive long but I think the only aim was to send a message

Yeah what NJS did make it worse. They seem to worship MHJ too much sadly.

 

[BianTwo]

Yeah what NJS did make it worse. They seem to worship MHJ too much sadly.

Sadly because she's the "lesser evil" and the one they know. The other choice would be HYBE.

Despite her character, despite what she said about them. Moreover MHJ got a strong hold on them and on their family and it's not good sign since they seems to worship her like a deity.

And that video, I don't think I've seen this done before. Yes they are still very popular but who wants to work with them after this ? Knowing they can publicly criticize or threat you. Only desperate companies would try to take them (hello IOK with former Fifty-Fifty members).

And if they move from HYBE, good luck to use the songs, the group name and to pay all those sponsors contract breach.

 

[fromisJelly]

Sadly because she's the "lesser evil" and the one they know. The other choice would be HYBE.

Despite her character, despite what she said about them. Moreover MHJ got a strong hold on them and on their family and it's not good sign since they seems to worship her like a deity.

And that video, I don't think I've seen this done before. Yes they are still very popular but who wants to work with them after this ? Knowing they can publicly criticize or threat you. Only desperate compagnies would try to take them (hello IOK with former Fifty-Fifty members).

And if they move from HYBE, good luck to use the songs, the group name and to pay all those sponsors contract breach.

Yeah. And even me who like NJS and have purchased their albums, will stop buying their albums to support them. Instead, my money will go to ILLIT who are the real victims. ILLIT do not have a peaceful debut, and was constantly attacked due to MHJ. And now that they are finally drop their comeback news, just a day pass and this happen? I won't be surprised if MHJ requested NJS to do this.

I am sick and tired of all these.

Why are LSF and ILLIT always suffering? Just as LSF was about to have a comeback, conveniently the scandal of BSH and Fruit Juice Seyeon happen.


I am glad that fromis as one of HYBE GG do not suffer (but maybe because MHJ think that they are small), but all these happening is really saddening.


I know Hanni talk about one of the GG manager asking their Group to ignore her, but when MHJ been attacking those groups and those groups are suffering, it isn't surprisingly that the manager might feel hostile, since they will be protective of their GG. I know it isn't right, but I can totally see why the manager act that way. But now the manager is going to be witch hunted because of this too.

 

[hatmixx]

This is very interesting now. even more interesting than before.

whole video and translation

Spoiler

: Some of you might be surprised by this sudden meeting, but we wanted to share our thoughts and opinions about the recent events, so we prepared this session. First, I want to explain one of the reasons we decided to do this live. It's been hard to see many people who have worked with us continue to suffer from unfair demands and pressure even after our CEO was dismissed. It was frustrating to just stand by and watch these situations unfold, and we were very worried about our future as a group of five. Honestly, while preparing for this live, we were naturally concerned about the reactions we might receive afterward. We were also worried that people might mistakenly think that our CEO instructed us to do this, but I want to clarify that this live was prepared because we five members genuinely wanted to express our thoughts. We received help from directors we trust for things we couldn't prepare ourselves, like setting up the shoot and finding a location. It didn’t feel right for us to stay silent when everyone, including our Bunnies, has been stepping up to support us. Moreover, this is not just a matter of leaving it to the adults because it directly affects the lives of us five members. Since we're the ones going through this, we felt that it would be healthier to speak up ourselves than to do nothing, so we mustered the courage to do so. The main point of what we want to say today is directed towards HYBE. We've already had meetings with the current management to express our opinions, but after seeing what happened afterward, it feels like our concerns weren't clearly conveyed. It seemed like communication was blocked, so we felt that preparing this live was the only way to properly share our thoughts and feelings.

: I’m sure that today’s announcement has shocked many of the staff as well, as they were not aware of it, and I imagine everyone watching is quite surprised too. We’ve thought a lot about where to begin, but since the purpose is to express our intentions, we’ll try to explain as clearly as possible. Of course, due to contractual issues, we can’t share everything, but we’ll be as honest as we can. After it was decided that we would debut as NewJeans, our members spent a lot of time getting to know Min Heejin Daepyonim, both as a group and individually. At first, I had reservations and a certain fear towards the adults we were working with, but Daepyonim was the first person to approach us in a way that allowed us to open up, which was initially awkward but eventually built trust. From before our debut until now, we’ve been aware of various issues related to our debut schedule and other matters. However, working with Daepyonim made us feel good, and I believe that’s why we were able to debut successfully and continue our activities until now. This has been today’s news story.

: Naturally, we all want to continue working with Daepyonim. Even before debuting as NewJeans and through all of the time that we spent together with Min Heejin Daepyonim, all of us felt that the music we wanted to make and the kind of world we wanted to build together, our vision, was similar in so many ways. With Min Heejin Daepyonim, we were able to prepare each and every task with sincere hearts, and I believe it shows in our work. Putting our sincere effort into something is only possible because of the people that we're working with have trust in each other and have that same vision. Min Heejin Daepyonim is not only the person that produces our music, but someone who makes NewJeans who we are. She discusses even the smallest details with us and explains them in ways that we can understand clearly. NewJeans has a distinct colour and tone, and this was created with Min Heejin Daepyonim. She is integral to NewJeans’ identity, and we all feel that she is irreplaceable.

: However, even after our debut, there have been many unfair and incomprehensible incidents that you might not know about, and these incidents have only increased over time. As some of you may know, recently, videos from our trainee days and private records, such as medical information, were leaked. When I first saw that, I was really shocked. It was hard to understand how our company, which is supposed to protect us, failed to manage and allowed such information to be leaked. Naturally, this situation has made us worry that other strange or false information about us might spread in the future. Although we, along with our parents and Min Heejin Daepyonim, have raised concerns about this to HYBE, they haven’t resolved the issue, nor have they taken any proactive measures. Then, in the midst of all this, our CEO was dismissed, and we’re left wondering whom we can trust and rely on. We’ve come to the conclusion that if we don’t speak out about this now, no one will know what we’re going through. After much discussion among ourselves, we finally decided to take this step.

: Something happened to me recently. The 4th floor of the HYBE building is where we get our hair and makeup done, so a lot of other artists and staff come and go there. One day, I was waiting alone in the hallway, and some staff from another team passed by. We greeted each other, but when they came back out a bit later, I heard one of their managers say, “Ignore her,” right in front of me. I could hear and see everything clearly. Even now, I still don’t understand why I had to go through that.

: When I heard about what Hanni experienced, I was really shocked. How could a manager from another team tell their members to ignore one of us, and say it so loudly that Hanni could hear it? Such unimaginable words and behavior were directed at us, yet there was no apology, nor did they even acknowledge their wrongdoing. Of course, I’m worried about our future, but what’s most frightening is that the work we’ve already created is being compromised. Seeing the people who have poured their lives into creating our work being treated this way makes it hard to understand how this could be happening. The new management said they would separate producing and management, but we’ve always worked differently from other labels, and we thought that our way was a good one. Now, Daepyonim can no longer approve all matters, and we’re left wondering how we’re supposed to continue working as we did before. The recent statement from the new management also didn’t make sense to me. If they really didn’t intend to interfere with our producing, then the recent incident with Director Shin Woo-seok should never have happened, and it should have been handled differently. We are the ones directly involved with the copyrights and likeness rights of our content, yet they’re making decisions without our consent. In their statement, they kept saying they were acting to protect us and prevent our anxiety, but why do they keep insisting on this when they haven’t considered our wishes? We don’t want any more unnecessary issues to arise, and we want them to show respect and consideration for Daepyonim and all the directors who have worked with us. The things they’re doing right now are not in our best interest at all.

: Something we all find very important, something that plays a very important role in our team's colour and image is our media content and creative production. Despite saying that they would leave all the creative production to our now former CEO, Min Heejin, through official statements that I think a lot of you might have already read or seen, and also during our personal meetings, they infringed our content. Content that not only we worked really hard on, but also our staff who spent endless hours to produce and release them solely for our fans. And if they had any understanding about what type of team we are, and the type of content that we create, they would have thought more deeply for crossing the line that they set for themselves. Because of this incident, we realized that there's not much we can do to prevent these type of issues. Personally, the way that ADOR used to run was the business management and creative production was not separated and was factors that played and worked in harmony with each other. That's how it worked and it was perfectly fine. It was our way of working and it was our CEO's way of producing NewJeans' content, which a lot of you were able to enjoy and appreciate. But now that she's no longer CEO, these factors that should have continued to work together in harmony are now being seen as two different areas of work.

: Besides this, there are many other incidents we’ve experienced that are beyond my understanding—things that are frightening and uncomfortable. These incidents naturally make us question whether HYBE really cares about NewJeans, and there are clear signs of this. However, it’s hard to discuss everything today because we’re not sure how far things could escalate. We just hope you can understand a little of what’s been on our minds and why we chose to speak out in this way.

: As I mentioned earlier, our dream was to perform the music we want to make with Daepyonim, and we were working very hard toward that goal. But now, we can’t do that, and the plans we’ve made might not come to fruition. As Hanni unnie said earlier, just like that, the content that we released solely for our fans, for our bunnies, was instantly erased. And I truly can't understand why anyone would do this to a group, or just anyone in general. We were just working hard for the present, so what did we do wrong? A week after Daepyonim was dismissed, we found out that we could no longer work with the director we’ve been working with all this time, and we’re extremely anxious because we don’t know what will happen to the staff who have always worked hard for us. If they really care about us, they should stop saying that they prioritize the artists and instead let us do the music we love in an environment where we can be genuinely happy. Is that really so hard to do? It’s hard to fully express what’s in my heart, but in the end, the five of us just want to continue our activities with Min Heejin Daepyonim, as we have done so far.

: Personally, I want to continue working with the people around us who have helped me grow mentally and made me feel alive. However, I can't understand, nor do I think I should have to understand, why external forces are constantly obstructing and hindering us. I absolutely cannot comprehend what is truly in our best interest or what is supposed to help us grow. And I feel so sorry and heartbroken that our Bunnies, who found comfort in us and shared joyful memories with us, have to go through this ordeal and worry about things they shouldn't have to. We almost lost the work that symbolizes the relationship between NewJeans and Bunnies, and we don't want to lose anything else. I refuse to conform to or follow the values of the society those people belong to, and because I believe that direction is not the right one, I will not choose to go that way.

: We found out about the CEO's dismissal through the news on the very day it happened. It was so sudden and unimaginable for all of us, and honestly, it was really difficult for us to process. As artists under HYBE, the company's unilateral notification made it clear to us that they don't respect us at all. In the midst of this confusion, we heard through our manager that the new CEO wanted to meet with us. From the very first action taken by the newly appointed Juyoung, it was clear that there was no consideration for us. He claimed to care for us, to prioritize NewJeans, but looking at everything that has happened, it's evident that his words were just that—empty words. HYBE’s actions, like publishing articles that painted us in a bad light just a week before our comeback, make us question how any of this is supposed to be in our best interest.

: It's already been half a year of unnecessary and exhausting discussions about us and NewJeans, and even as a third party, it must be tiring. As the ones directly involved, it’s incredibly uncomfortable for us. We still have music we want to make and goals we want to achieve together, but as things stand now, it’s heartbreaking to think that we might lose not only the work we’ve created so far but also the identity of our team. That’s what makes us feel so helpless. We held this live stream to express our feelings because we sincerely want this tiresome conflict to end.

: Like how we have our own and individual thoughts and feelings, we have the choice to choose how we will react to each situation, and we are not going to follow Hybe's every order blindly. We are more than well aware that this is getting in the way of our work, and that we should be treated much, much better than how we are right now. And it's very hard to believe that they are truly sincere about wanting to help us continue, to be able to continue to work with our Daepyonim, Min Heejin Daepyonim. Despite her being in the midst of all this current legal conflict, she's expected to plan and creatively produce our future endeavours in just only two months, which I personally think makes no sense at all. We don't want to hear all the empty words of how they're going to help us continue to work with Min Heejin, Daepyonim. And all we want is this legal conflict to be resolved and have our working environment returned back to normal the way it was before.

: The way HYBE is operating right now feels dishonest and wrong to us. Please, stop interfering. Reinstating our CEO and returning us to the original ADOR environment we had before, with familiar people, not strangers, would make things right. We’re not asking for special treatment; we just want everyone to do their jobs well in their respective places. We’ll do our best in our roles too. We sincerely hope our request is heard.

: From a human perspective, I hope you stop harassing our CEO, Min Hee Jin. Honestly, she seems so pitiful, and HYBE just comes across as an inhumane company. What can we possibly learn from a company like this? So, I really hope you stop bothering our CEO.

: What we want is the original ADOR, where CEO Min Hee Jin leads both management and production. The reason we're making this request is because it's a way to coexist peacefully without conflict with HYBE. If our message has been conveyed properly, we hope Chairman Bang and HYBE make a wise decision to restore ADOR to its original state by the 25th. Thank you for listening to us.

 

[fromisJelly]

This is very interesting now. even more interesting than before.

whole video and translation

Spoiler

: Some of you might be surprised by this sudden meeting, but we wanted to share our thoughts and opinions about the recent events, so we prepared this session. First, I want to explain one of the reasons we decided to do this live. It's been hard to see many people who have worked with us continue to suffer from unfair demands and pressure even after our CEO was dismissed. It was frustrating to just stand by and watch these situations unfold, and we were very worried about our future as a group of five. Honestly, while preparing for this live, we were naturally concerned about the reactions we might receive afterward. We were also worried that people might mistakenly think that our CEO instructed us to do this, but I want to clarify that this live was prepared because we five members genuinely wanted to express our thoughts. We received help from directors we trust for things we couldn't prepare ourselves, like setting up the shoot and finding a location. It didn’t feel right for us to stay silent when everyone, including our Bunnies, has been stepping up to support us. Moreover, this is not just a matter of leaving it to the adults because it directly affects the lives of us five members. Since we're the ones going through this, we felt that it would be healthier to speak up ourselves than to do nothing, so we mustered the courage to do so. The main point of what we want to say today is directed towards HYBE. We've already had meetings with the current management to express our opinions, but after seeing what happened afterward, it feels like our concerns weren't clearly conveyed. It seemed like communication was blocked, so we felt that preparing this live was the only way to properly share our thoughts and feelings.

: I’m sure that today’s announcement has shocked many of the staff as well, as they were not aware of it, and I imagine everyone watching is quite surprised too. We’ve thought a lot about where to begin, but since the purpose is to express our intentions, we’ll try to explain as clearly as possible. Of course, due to contractual issues, we can’t share everything, but we’ll be as honest as we can. After it was decided that we would debut as NewJeans, our members spent a lot of time getting to know Min Heejin Daepyonim, both as a group and individually. At first, I had reservations and a certain fear towards the adults we were working with, but Daepyonim was the first person to approach us in a way that allowed us to open up, which was initially awkward but eventually built trust. From before our debut until now, we’ve been aware of various issues related to our debut schedule and other matters. However, working with Daepyonim made us feel good, and I believe that’s why we were able to debut successfully and continue our activities until now. This has been today’s news story.

: Naturally, we all want to continue working with Daepyonim. Even before debuting as NewJeans and through all of the time that we spent together with Min Heejin Daepyonim, all of us felt that the music we wanted to make and the kind of world we wanted to build together, our vision, was similar in so many ways. With Min Heejin Daepyonim, we were able to prepare each and every task with sincere hearts, and I believe it shows in our work. Putting our sincere effort into something is only possible because of the people that we're working with have trust in each other and have that same vision. Min Heejin Daepyonim is not only the person that produces our music, but someone who makes NewJeans who we are. She discusses even the smallest details with us and explains them in ways that we can understand clearly. NewJeans has a distinct colour and tone, and this was created with Min Heejin Daepyonim. She is integral to NewJeans’ identity, and we all feel that she is irreplaceable.

: However, even after our debut, there have been many unfair and incomprehensible incidents that you might not know about, and these incidents have only increased over time. As some of you may know, recently, videos from our trainee days and private records, such as medical information, were leaked. When I first saw that, I was really shocked. It was hard to understand how our company, which is supposed to protect us, failed to manage and allowed such information to be leaked. Naturally, this situation has made us worry that other strange or false information about us might spread in the future. Although we, along with our parents and Min Heejin Daepyonim, have raised concerns about this to HYBE, they haven’t resolved the issue, nor have they taken any proactive measures. Then, in the midst of all this, our CEO was dismissed, and we’re left wondering whom we can trust and rely on. We’ve come to the conclusion that if we don’t speak out about this now, no one will know what we’re going through. After much discussion among ourselves, we finally decided to take this step.

: Something happened to me recently. The 4th floor of the HYBE building is where we get our hair and makeup done, so a lot of other artists and staff come and go there. One day, I was waiting alone in the hallway, and some staff from another team passed by. We greeted each other, but when they came back out a bit later, I heard one of their managers say, “Ignore her,” right in front of me. I could hear and see everything clearly. Even now, I still don’t understand why I had to go through that.

: When I heard about what Hanni experienced, I was really shocked. How could a manager from another team tell their members to ignore one of us, and say it so loudly that Hanni could hear it? Such unimaginable words and behavior were directed at us, yet there was no apology, nor did they even acknowledge their wrongdoing. Of course, I’m worried about our future, but what’s most frightening is that the work we’ve already created is being compromised. Seeing the people who have poured their lives into creating our work being treated this way makes it hard to understand how this could be happening. The new management said they would separate producing and management, but we’ve always worked differently from other labels, and we thought that our way was a good one. Now, Daepyonim can no longer approve all matters, and we’re left wondering how we’re supposed to continue working as we did before. The recent statement from the new management also didn’t make sense to me. If they really didn’t intend to interfere with our producing, then the recent incident with Director Shin Woo-seok should never have happened, and it should have been handled differently. We are the ones directly involved with the copyrights and likeness rights of our content, yet they’re making decisions without our consent. In their statement, they kept saying they were acting to protect us and prevent our anxiety, but why do they keep insisting on this when they haven’t considered our wishes? We don’t want any more unnecessary issues to arise, and we want them to show respect and consideration for Daepyonim and all the directors who have worked with us. The things they’re doing right now are not in our best interest at all.

: Something we all find very important, something that plays a very important role in our team's colour and image is our media content and creative production. Despite saying that they would leave all the creative production to our now former CEO, Min Heejin, through official statements that I think a lot of you might have already read or seen, and also during our personal meetings, they infringed our content. Content that not only we worked really hard on, but also our staff who spent endless hours to produce and release them solely for our fans. And if they had any understanding about what type of team we are, and the type of content that we create, they would have thought more deeply for crossing the line that they set for themselves. Because of this incident, we realized that there's not much we can do to prevent these type of issues. Personally, the way that ADOR used to run was the business management and creative production was not separated and was factors that played and worked in harmony with each other. That's how it worked and it was perfectly fine. It was our way of working and it was our CEO's way of producing NewJeans' content, which a lot of you were able to enjoy and appreciate. But now that she's no longer CEO, these factors that should have continued to work together in harmony are now being seen as two different areas of work.

: Besides this, there are many other incidents we’ve experienced that are beyond my understanding—things that are frightening and uncomfortable. These incidents naturally make us question whether HYBE really cares about NewJeans, and there are clear signs of this. However, it’s hard to discuss everything today because we’re not sure how far things could escalate. We just hope you can understand a little of what’s been on our minds and why we chose to speak out in this way.

: As I mentioned earlier, our dream was to perform the music we want to make with Daepyonim, and we were working very hard toward that goal. But now, we can’t do that, and the plans we’ve made might not come to fruition. As Hanni unnie said earlier, just like that, the content that we released solely for our fans, for our bunnies, was instantly erased. And I truly can't understand why anyone would do this to a group, or just anyone in general. We were just working hard for the present, so what did we do wrong? A week after Daepyonim was dismissed, we found out that we could no longer work with the director we’ve been working with all this time, and we’re extremely anxious because we don’t know what will happen to the staff who have always worked hard for us. If they really care about us, they should stop saying that they prioritize the artists and instead let us do the music we love in an environment where we can be genuinely happy. Is that really so hard to do? It’s hard to fully express what’s in my heart, but in the end, the five of us just want to continue our activities with Min Heejin Daepyonim, as we have done so far.

: Personally, I want to continue working with the people around us who have helped me grow mentally and made me feel alive. However, I can't understand, nor do I think I should have to understand, why external forces are constantly obstructing and hindering us. I absolutely cannot comprehend what is truly in our best interest or what is supposed to help us grow. And I feel so sorry and heartbroken that our Bunnies, who found comfort in us and shared joyful memories with us, have to go through this ordeal and worry about things they shouldn't have to. We almost lost the work that symbolizes the relationship between NewJeans and Bunnies, and we don't want to lose anything else. I refuse to conform to or follow the values of the society those people belong to, and because I believe that direction is not the right one, I will not choose to go that way.

: We found out about the CEO's dismissal through the news on the very day it happened. It was so sudden and unimaginable for all of us, and honestly, it was really difficult for us to process. As artists under HYBE, the company's unilateral notification made it clear to us that they don't respect us at all. In the midst of this confusion, we heard through our manager that the new CEO wanted to meet with us. From the very first action taken by the newly appointed Juyoung, it was clear that there was no consideration for us. He claimed to care for us, to prioritize NewJeans, but looking at everything that has happened, it's evident that his words were just that—empty words. HYBE’s actions, like publishing articles that painted us in a bad light just a week before our comeback, make us question how any of this is supposed to be in our best interest.

: It's already been half a year of unnecessary and exhausting discussions about us and NewJeans, and even as a third party, it must be tiring. As the ones directly involved, it’s incredibly uncomfortable for us. We still have music we want to make and goals we want to achieve together, but as things stand now, it’s heartbreaking to think that we might lose not only the work we’ve created so far but also the identity of our team. That’s what makes us feel so helpless. We held this live stream to express our feelings because we sincerely want this tiresome conflict to end.

: Like how we have our own and individual thoughts and feelings, we have the choice to choose how we will react to each situation, and we are not going to follow Hybe's every order blindly. We are more than well aware that this is getting in the way of our work, and that we should be treated much, much better than how we are right now. And it's very hard to believe that they are truly sincere about wanting to help us continue, to be able to continue to work with our Daepyonim, Min Heejin Daepyonim. Despite her being in the midst of all this current legal conflict, she's expected to plan and creatively produce our future endeavours in just only two months, which I personally think makes no sense at all. We don't want to hear all the empty words of how they're going to help us continue to work with Min Heejin, Daepyonim. And all we want is this legal conflict to be resolved and have our working environment returned back to normal the way it was before.

: The way HYBE is operating right now feels dishonest and wrong to us. Please, stop interfering. Reinstating our CEO and returning us to the original ADOR environment we had before, with familiar people, not strangers, would make things right. We’re not asking for special treatment; we just want everyone to do their jobs well in their respective places. We’ll do our best in our roles too. We sincerely hope our request is heard.

: From a human perspective, I hope you stop harassing our CEO, Min Hee Jin. Honestly, she seems so pitiful, and HYBE just comes across as an inhumane company. What can we possibly learn from a company like this? So, I really hope you stop bothering our CEO.

: What we want is the original ADOR, where CEO Min Hee Jin leads both management and production. The reason we're making this request is because it's a way to coexist peacefully without conflict with HYBE. If our message has been conveyed properly, we hope Chairman Bang and HYBE make a wise decision to restore ADOR to its original state by the 25th. Thank you for listening to us.

Daepyonim Daepyonim Daepyonim Daepyonim


NJS are truly brainwashed to the max.

 

[Your Biggest Fan]

Also I want to point out something. Just as ILLIT put out news that they are going to have a comeback in October, this happen. Coincidence? I think not.

That fact is not lost on me. It's like when that dumb director of ETA tried starting a scandal about the MV when LSF released 'Crazy'. They can't stand the attention being on someone else (aka their enemies), but it's obvious to everyone with a functioning brain what their tactics are and that they're trash.

Yeah. And even me who like NJS and have purchased their albums, will stop buying their albums to support them. Instead, my money will go to ILLIT who are the real victims. ILLIT do not have a peaceful debut, and was constantly attacked due to MHJ. And now that they are finally drop their comeback news, just a day pass and this happen? I won't be surprised if MHJ requested NJS to do this.

Same. I'm just waiting on that preorder link.

I know Hanni talk about one of the GG manager asking their Group to ignore her, but when MHJ been attacking those groups and those groups are suffering, it isn't surprisingly that the manager might feel hostile, since they will be protective of their GG. I know it isn't right, but I can totally see why the manager act that way. But now the manager is going to be witch hunted because of this too.

MHJ made NWJNS believe they could have their cake and eat it too. I was hoping that they'd open their eyes before it was too late, but they're a lost cause now and just as guilty.

 

[RussianRoulette]

I haven’t watched the whole video, but I saw one quote from it which was “we have no more higher-ups that we can trust” and my first thought was:



Isn’t one of said higher-ups in an investigation for SA-ing someone right now???

Y’all have full trust in a man who SA-ed people?????


These girls really are in too deep and I don’t think there’s any coming back. I think this is going to be a Fifty Fifty 2.0 and I don’t see this ending well.

I low-key wonder if we’ll be seeing NJ’s disband at some point in the future?

Oversea fans don’t seem to be supporting NJ’s in this which I’m kind of surprised about, but the hate for MHJ is strong overseas after what she did to various SM artists.

If this makes sense, I low-key want to see SM artists’s opinions on these girls because I don’t think I’ve seen a single SM artist who she use to work with have a positive opinion about her. I know Yeri has dropped indirect hints that she didn’t like her before.

With so many SM artists not liking her, I want to know how they feel about NJ’s being so brainwashed about her.

 

[fromisJelly]

That fact is not lost on me. It's like when that dumb director of ETA tried starting a scandal about the MV when LSF released 'Crazy'. They can't stand the attention being on someone else (aka their enemies), but it's obvious to everyone with a functioning brain what their tactics are and that they're trash.



Same. I'm just waiting on that preorder link.



MHJ made NWJNS believe they could have their cake and eat it too. I was hoping that they'd open their eyes before it was too late, but they're a lost cause now and just as guilty.

Yeah. I was trying to be neutral since I like all the hybe GGs (fromis, LE SSERAFIM, ILLIT, New Jeans). But New Jeans make me so disappointed in them today. Sure they have the right to speak up. But their statement today are just worshipping MHJ and it totally make me disgusted. They still want to work with someone who sexually harrassed another HYBE employee? Someone who verbally attacked other Hybe GGs? And then they wonder why the other labels are hostile?

Man, I am so annoyed. So disappointed.


All these shits constantly happening on other hybe ggs comebacks.

 

[Your Biggest Fan]

: Something happened to me recently. The 4th floor of the HYBE building is where we get our hair and makeup done, so a lot of other artists and staff come and go there. One day, I was waiting alone in the hallway, and some staff from another team passed by. We greeted each other, but when they came back out a bit later, I heard one of their managers say, “Ignore her,” right in front of me. I could hear and see everything clearly. Even now, I still don’t understand why I had to go through that.


: When I heard about what Hanni experienced, I was really shocked. How could a manager from another team tell their members to ignore one of us, and say it so loudly that Hanni could hear it? Such unimaginable words and behavior were directed at us, yet there was no apology, nor did they even acknowledge their wrongdoing

I mean, what did they expect?
Did you all apologize for the hurt you needlessly caused to the other HYBE groups?
Just like MHJ, they think they're above consequences.

 

[choively]

this is horrible !!! ive seen some videos of them explaining/talking about this NOOOOO THE HYBE STAFF EVEN TOLD ANOTHER GROUP TO IGORE HANNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII YOU COULD TELL HOW HURT SHE IS THERE.



HYBE U DISHONEST BEAST I bet they never liked mhj before.

 

[Chococo]

Kind of crazy. In 2001, g.o.d members held the conference all by themselves because their member and a friend was kicked out over the relationship rumors. Back then everyone applauded their brave decision to stand up for one of their own and the decision was eventually reversed. Over the years we had multiple idols rant on Vlives, artists falling asleep on the lives because of how exhausted they are, multiple lawsuits (Loona/Omega X/The East Light/Momoland's Daisy taking out MLD/etc), terrible companies (TS Ent & Pascal - I am looking at you), and an incident where staff slapped a girl group member during the live.

Say whatever you want about MHJ (who I genuinely don't like), she must have become like the mother to these girls and they care for her. She must be important and irreplaceable to them. Perhaps they really developed a close bond with each other, while I think it is not good for a grown-up adult woman to emotionally depend on a teenager. Or perhaps they feel like they owe something to her and that she was the one who had picked them out, the one who had made them the brand, and built them up from their early days. There's a sense of loyalty here.

I only feel bad for New Jeans girls here, and it is unfortunate they both got caught up in this since both sides got far too greedy. The face of this whole battle is idols, who will be facing the most downfall, and most of the people seem to be forgetting that Hyein is still 16. And I don't think that anyone out there was making the most mature decisions of their lives at this age. It is all the management's fault. Clearly, the girls don't trust any of the adults there working with them. Because none of the adults would communicate with the girls responsibly. MHJ is refusing to work under her new position, and HYBE are shooting themselves in the foot. In the entertainment world, you are like a marionette, and the industry is the puppeteer controlling it

Also, it speaks volumes on how many senior idols have come out in support in regards to New Jeans over the last couple of months. None of this should have happened.

 

[Chiharu]

I'm sorry, but saying Illit are the only real victims in this is just straight up stupid. Illit aren't the ones who have their careers at risk right now and are hated by their parent company ultimately, this mess will have no real affect on them, while there's a very real chance newjeans will be put in the dungeon for the rest of their contract. It seems to me like they tried to move on with the new CEO, but said CEO wasn't willing to hear them out, plus now they're being bullied by grown adults in the company

Maybe this wasn't the smartest thing for them to do, but I completely understand why they felt like they had no other choice

 

[Chiharu]

If this makes sense, I low-key want to see SM artists’s opinions on these girls because I don’t think I’ve seen a single SM artist who she use to work with have a positive opinion about her. I know Yeri has dropped indirect hints that she didn’t like her before.

With so many SM artists not liking her, I want to know how they feel about NJ’s being so brainwashed about her.

I mean, Taeyeon and Sooyoung both seemed to be supporting them and tbh, I'm sure most idols can sympathize with NJ's
also, at this point, I kind of feel like the insistence from some people (not saying you're doing this) that NJ's are just brainwashed by MHJ is done purely to discredit and dismiss anything they say