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im really confuse about melon. the song is good, the message is good
if they cant reach #1 in realtime its really impossible to have more UL since most koreans are checking who is number 1 right now in the realtime. im not blaming fandom for streaming song but it really hurts a group who is depend only general public presence
anyway ITZY are #1 in Ichart right now.
if they cant reach #1 in realtime its really impossible to have more UL since most koreans are checking who is number 1 right now in the realtime. im not blaming fandom for streaming song but it really hurts a group who is depend only general public presence
anyway ITZY are #1 in Ichart right now.
i hope today they get 10k++ sales. the next target should be surpass current ITZ ICY hanteo sales which is 75k.
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To put things in perspective, Itzy is just entering their second year, and they've already overtaken Miss A and Wonder Girls to be the 2nd top selling JYPE GG of all time. In terms of sales per album, I think they are already among the Top 5. Regardless of YT views or Melon ranking, they're doing amazing well, especially considering they are technically still rookies.
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i still want them to be no1 in gaon yearly chart like their sisters.To put things in perspective, Itzy is just entering their second year, and they've already overtaken Miss A and Wonder Girls to be the 2nd top selling JYPE GG of all time. In terms of sales per album, I think they are already among the Top 5. Regardless of YT views or Melon ranking, they're doing amazing well, especially considering they are technically still rookies.
but this 3.5th/4th gen is riddiculuos mess, kpop is not about general public anymore if things keep going like this.
physical is no doubt they will surpass WG and MissA since kpop is now very global.
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70k first week is possible! 1 month 100k hanteo?
the growth! kinda sad is only need 50k stream to be top 200 global spotify.
kinda surprised nobody like you is not b side with most stream, lets see in the long run. i believe that song is the superior bside of this mini album.
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Guest70k first week is possible! 1 month 100k hanteo?
the growth! kinda sad is only need 50k stream to be top 200 global spotify.
kinda surprised nobody like you is not b side with most stream, lets see in the long run. i believe that song is the superior bside of this mini album.
I hope so. Since it's almost impossible for fansign to do, it's likely that their sales may not have a boost. However, IT'z ICY had 40k copies more than it did in its 1st week, so they could exceed 100k copies on Hanteo soon.
TINX3 is very good, and its western rhythm made the song win more stans.
A while ago I was watching YouTube on my mobile and I watch the video in the ads, lol.
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Despite the new views policies in the first 24 hours, ITZY didn't suffer their views so significantly, and that makes me happy. We were able to get more than 10 million and that's great since their previous records were also among the 10 million.
I think the reason why day 1 views are lower is because JYPE hasn’t been buying ads for the 1st 24 hours. Twice’ s feel special had much lower views than Fancy also. Ads are starting now, wannabe is already approaching 21 million. Just their marketing strategy.
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It's crazy that 1 hour ago they had 18 million and they already have almost 21 million. Definitely the worst thing about the new view policies on YouTube is that we can't see the true views that the song could have had in 24 hours. Maybe now we were at 30 million or more.
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To put things in perspective, Itzy is just entering their second year, and they've already overtaken Miss A and Wonder Girls to be the 2nd top selling JYPE GG of all time. In terms of sales per album, I think they are already among the Top 5. Regardless of YT views or Melon ranking, they're doing amazing well, especially considering they are technically still rookies.
I wonder if melon is losing market share. Last I heard they were at 45%, genie 23%, flo 17%. Melon has been involved with controversy allegations of sajaegi manipulations, embezzling royalties.
For album sales, it’s really iz*one, twice, BP then RV, Itzy, Mamamoo are in that same 100K + bracket. To me these 6 and Gfriend are the “upper tier” of GGs in terms of commercial success.
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It's crazy that 1 hour ago they had 18 million and they already have almost 21 million. Definitely the worst thing about the new view policies on YouTube is that we can't see the true views that the song could have had in 24 hours. Maybe now we were at 30 million or more.
If JYPE bought ads it would still show up in the counter. That’s why I mentioned I don’t think they did that. Yuehua bought ads for dun dun day 1 and their counter showed 15 million after day 1. However if you go to the youtube official chart it showed dun dun had 15.6 million non-ad views after their 1st week (4 days).
The youtube official weekly chart will show true non ad views while kwoorb has the total views.
For reference Feel Special week1 (1st 4 days)
52 million total views
YouTube Weekly Chart
A website that collects and analyzes music data from around the world. All of the charts, sales and streams, constantly updated.
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I wonder if melon is losing market share. Last I heard they were at 45%, genie 23%, flo 17%. Melon has been involved with controversy allegations of sajaegi manipulations, embezzling royalties.
For album sales, it’s really iz*one, twice, BP then RV, Itzy, Mamamoo are in that same 100K + bracket. To me these 6 and Gfriend are the “upper tier” of GGs in terms of commercial success.
this is recent update about market share.
kinda expect melon to lose more relevance since i see UL's are really low even for digimon like IU. i think flo will take 25% ++ right now and melon about 35%.
i think its better to see form instiz chart to know how well the song perform.
Twice really revived jype gg albums sales, back then WG and missA is digital only bcs JYPE GG have Brand name from their senior thats why they tend to well liked for public, i hope jype will have 2 gg with both monster digital and physical later. i can see itzy selling 200k this year or next year tbh
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this is recent update about market share.
i think its better to see form instiz chart to know how well the song perform.
Twice really revived jype gg albums sales, back then WG and missA is digital only bcs JYPE GG have Brand name from their senior thats why they tend to well liked for public, i hope jype will have 2 gg with both monster digital and physical later. i can see itzy selling 200k this year or next year tbh
‘Thanks! Its true then melon is losing market share or they became stagnant while other services grew their userbase
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the song was doing well by digital tbh
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GuestI wonder if melon is losing market share. Last I heard they were at 45%, genie 23%, flo 17%. Melon has been involved with controversy allegations of sajaegi manipulations, embezzling royalties.
For album sales, it’s really iz*one, twice, BP then RV, Itzy, Mamamoo are in that same 100K + bracket. To me these 6 and Gfriend are the “upper tier” of GGs in terms of commercial success.
Melon has been involved in controversies not only with his sajaegi but also against TWICE (that's why JYP has not sent the girls two years in a row to their awards, but they had to send to ITZY because since they were models for KIA and KIA was sponsor of the awards.), which we remember whenever they have a comeback are overcome by a song that suddenly became popular.
this is recent update about market share.
kinda expect melon to lose more relevance since i see UL's are really low even for digimon like IU. i think flo will take 25% ++ right now and melon about 35%.
i think its better to see form instiz chart to know how well the song perform.
Twice really revived jype gg albums sales, back then WG and missA is digital only bcs JYPE GG have Brand name from their senior thats why they tend to well liked for public, i hope jype will have 2 gg with both monster digital and physical later. i can see itzy selling 200k this year or next year tbh
In fact, FLO is gaining more and more strength. It's the only chart, in addition to Melon, that has male fandom power in streams. If we see the chart right now, the TOP 30 of the songs of NCT and BTS, two male groups that are of the companies that made an alliance to launch FLO.
Regarding iChart, you're right. The girls are #1 on iChart and that makes me feel and shows that the song has been a success, that's why I'm not so upset by Melon and FLO.
And it's true. TWICE and GOT7 revived the physical sales market in JYP too much, to the point that both are the TOP 5 of the groups from 2010 to 2015 with more sales on Gaon. ITZY sales are growing, I would not be surprised if your sales reach 200k by the end of the year, just as SKZ is also starting to grow in sales. JYP is being a powerful in physical sales for idol groups (not counting DAY6).
the song was doing well by digital tbh
I really hope that with the music show promotions the song can grow on the missing charts, it would not be the first time a song takes time to gain strength in the charts during the promotions.
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When Spotify is released in Korea I'm gonna be real interested in seeing how it affects other domestic streaming services, don't think it will be that impactful at the jump, but over time maybe.Melon has been involved in controversies not only with his sajaegi but also against TWICE (that's why JYP has not sent the girls two years in a row to their awards, but they had to send to ITZY because since they were models for KIA and KIA was sponsor of the awards.), which we remember whenever they have a comeback are overcome by a song that suddenly became popular.
In fact, FLO is gaining more and more strength. It's the only chart, in addition to Melon, that has male fandom power in streams. If we see the chart right now, the TOP 30 of the songs of NCT and BTS, two male groups that are of the companies that made an alliance to launch FLO.
Regarding iChart, you're right. The girls are #1 on iChart and that makes me feel and shows that the song has been a success, that's why I'm not so upset by Melon and FLO.
And it's true. TWICE and GOT7 revived the physical sales market in JYP too much, to the point that both are the TOP 5 of the groups from 2010 to 2015 with more sales on Gaon. ITZY sales are growing, I would not be surprised if your sales reach 200k by the end of the year, just as SKZ is also starting to grow in sales. JYP is being a powerful in physical sales for idol groups (not counting DAY6).
I really hope that with the music show promotions the song can grow on the missing charts, it would not be the first time a song takes time to gain strength in the charts during the promotions.
JYP sales are very impressive, Twice is obvious but Got7 have multiple albums over 300k and SKZ just passed 200k with their latest one. And I don't know of any recent rookie girl groups getting over 100k with their first album that wasn't produce related so their fanbase is already developing nicely. I do hope they have chart longetivity with Wannabe atleast, but only time will tell with that.
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JYP sales are very impressive, Twice is obvious but Got7 have multiple albums over 300k and SKZ just passed 200k with their latest one. And I don't know of any recent rookie girl groups getting over 100k with their first album that wasn't produce related so their fanbase is already developing nicely. I do hope they have chart longetivity with Wannabe atleast, but only time will tell with that.
When Spotify is launched in Korea, Gaon will surely include it in the digital chart. Spotify is very strong globally, and Korea is usually influenced by international things.
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