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I have no idea WTF that rabbit puffball chicken thing is but but sign me up

The Moka one :christmasblob:
Did she add a coffee (mocha?) on its shirt bc of her name :heartublob:
I just hope they're still in stock next Monday. I have no room in my budget for extra expenses this week :palcry:
 
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The Moka one :christmasblob:
Did she add a coffee (mocha?) on its shirt bc of her name :heartublob:
I just hope they're still in stock next Monday. I have no room in my budget for extra expenses this week :palcry:
Tbh depending on the price I might just wait for my local Kpop store to start selling the knock offs for 1/3 of the price.

It’s not that I don’t want to support the girls, it’s just there’s a huge difference between spending $30-40 on a plushie and $10-15 on a plushie :oxygen:
 

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Tbh depending on the price I might just wait for my local Kpop store to start selling the knock offs for 1/3 of the price.

It’s not that I don’t want to support the girls, it’s just there’s a huge difference between spending $30-40 on a plushie and $10-15 on a plushie :oxygen:
I don't live in a place where that sells Kpop merch, so I'm going to have to fork out the extra money for the official content.

Though weverse, at least for where I live, has overly inflated shipping costs. I bought the rug from Jimin's MUSE collection and the cost to ship the damn thing was almost twice the price of the actual item.
:oxygen:

Sometimes I just wish these companies would just think of my poor wallet and consider using economy shipping for once
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I don't have a tiktok and my twitter is just Jiwoong. It's everywhere. :TzuyuKek:

I'm a second gen fan :TzuyuKek: I've been into K-Pop for almost 20 years. There isn't really much place to go backwards since I listened to first gen too. Yoochun, Daesung and several others had major scandals in second gen.

That's fair, but I also just can't take the ick anymore :TzuyuKek:
I've dipped on K-pop before, it just feels like this is even more than usual.

But thank you for the advice! I do appreciate it, I think I'm just fatigued.


That's where I am headed too. I mean, I can't get back into Jpop just yet (it just won't be the same and IDK if I'm ready for that reality,) but I've just been listening to way more French than I am used to :TzuyuKek:
If by everywhere u mean you're still seeing it on twitter despite trying to curate it then that's because twitter is shit now. I've seen ppl saying on reddit that even when they try to report and block things shit still gets through. That's because of that asswipe.

This is my 14th year of being a kpop fan but there r groups I hadn't heard of or listened to more than a few songs from before. Like have u ever heard ledapple? Cross gene? Jjcc?

If u don't need a group that's still active and promoting there r a lot of disbanded nugus to get into.

What I mean by scandals is 2nd and 3rd gen groups who haven't physically hurt ppl. The worst thing with infinite was racist/rcta things Hoya said and he's not in the group anymore so I don't have to deal with his bs.

Whereas a lot of the more popular groups from that time where affected by bss.

Last year was the definitive worst year in kpop history because they had the hybe leak and sa and prostitution scandals get capped off by a coup. Feeling fatigued after that is completely normal and valid.

You're welcome. Remember to take mental health breaks. Last year during the hybe leak I had to lie still in bed and just listen to super car and this👇 over and over again.

And feel my anger. Those assholes basically outed 5 ppl/the boyz in general as gay and talked about a female minor being on psychiatric medication. As a queer person who's struggled with mental health issues (especially pre autism diagnosis and coming out as trans) u can imagine how angry I was. I started watching cringe short form cdramas because I didn’t want to hear Korean for awhile.
 

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If by everywhere u mean you're still seeing it on twitter despite trying to curate it then that's because twitter is shit now. I've seen ppl saying on reddit that even when they try to report and block things shit still gets through. That's because of that asswipe.
Oh no, my feed is only following. :poggers: It is genuinely just Jiwoong. But I am gonna cut out pretty much all media including forums.
This is my 14th year of being a kpop fan but there r groups I hadn't heard of or listened to more than a few songs from before. Like have u ever heard ledapple? Cross gene? Jjcc?
Yes, incidentally! I used to favor lesser known groups. Never got too into them because I wasn't entirely sold on their music. I actually used to listen to DNT and Romance. I am still proud to say i was a fan of ZE:A when they debuted so Hyungshik and Siwan were in my face before they were famous lol
If u don't need a group that's still active and promoting there r a lot of disbanded nugus to get into.
Eh, back then in was fine with it, but these days i dodge nugu groups. After seeing how most, honestly, had such horrible stories with zero pay-off i kinda begged off of them. Especially after ZE:A
What I mean by scandals is 2nd and 3rd gen groups who haven't physically hurt ppl. The worst thing with infinite was racist/rcta things Hoya said and he's not in the group anymore so I don't have to deal with his bs.
Karam from BOSS was molested by his CEO and it was revealed that the female trainees were being systematically raped? Daesung was accused of running a man over. Yoochun sexually assaulted a woman? The CEO of Star Empire slapped one of the nine muses members, after misappropriation of funds. :poggers:
Whereas a lot of the more popular groups from that time where affected by bss.
I have to say I disagree, I actually think the opposite.
Last year was the definitive worst year in kpop history because they had the hybe leak and sa and prostitution scandals get capped off by a coup. Feeling fatigued after that is completely normal and valid.
Compared to 2014?:whaaat:
Idk the worst year is always 2014 in my eyes. With 2019 being a close second.

But yes, HYBE is a shitty conglomerate and the fans love to pump them with money while complaining about it.

How can you boycott a company by buying all of their goods??
You're welcome. Remember to take mental health breaks. Last year during the hybe leak I had to lie still in bed and just listen to super car and this👇 over and over again.
Lucky? :poggers: lala la la laaaaaa
And feel my anger. Those assholes basically outed 5 ppl/the boyz in general as gay and talked about a female minor being on psychiatric medication. As a queer person who's struggled with mental health issues (especially pre autism diagnosis and coming out as trans) u can imagine how angry I was. I started watching cringe short form cdramas because I didn’t want to hear Korean for awhile.
I never really looked into the doucments but thats awful??? I don’t understand why people are still feeding the machine????
 

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Oh no, my feed is only following. :poggers: It is genuinely just Jiwoong. But I am gonna cut out pretty much all media including forums.

Yes, incidentally! I used to favor lesser known groups. Never got too into them because I wasn't entirely sold on their music. I actually used to listen to DNT and Romance. I am still proud to say i was a fan of ZE:A when they debuted so Hyungshik and Siwan were in my face before they were famous lol

Eh, back then in was fine with it, but these days i dodge nugu groups. After seeing how most, honestly, had such horrible stories with zero pay-off i kinda begged off of them. Especially after ZE:A

Karam from BOSS was molested by his CEO and it was revealed that the female trainees were being systematically raped? Daesung was accused of running a man over. Yoochun sexually assaulted a woman? The CEO of Star Empire slapped one of the nine muses members, after misappropriation of funds. :poggers:

I have to say I disagree, I actually think the opposite.

Compared to 2014?:whaaat:
Idk the worst year is always 2014 in my eyes. With 2019 being a close second.

But yes, HYBE is a shitty conglomerate and the fans love to pump them with money while complaining about it.

How can you boycott a company by buying all of their goods??

Lucky? :poggers: lala la la laaaaaa

I never really looked into the doucments but thats awful??? I don’t understand why people are still feeding the machine????
I don't know if there's any jiwoong update accounts or fan sites on bluesky. But I have heard decent things about it.

Although apparently white supremacist type people have realized that a lot of people are switching to there from Twitter, so they are beginning to get some brigading going on.
But yes, in general, cutting Twitter out of your life is always going to be a good decision.

Hopefully you're not leaving this forum right? 🙍🏻 who's going to obsess over yunjae and jiwoong with me? Lol.

Ah.

yes a lot of them aren't getting paid. But you're initial thing was about fandom discourse. obviously a nugu group, especially a disbanded nugu group will have less fans and having less fans means there's less people to yell at each other and send protest trucks.

Jfc that's horrible.

What I mean is infinite is 15 years old and all that's come out is Hoya being racist and talking about wanting to be black and he isn't in the group anymore.
I feel more comfortable being their fan than a rookie group with teens that could be my kid.

I tried to be a music only fan with xikers and i ended up watching a fancam from their showcase tour in new york where someone must've yelled yechan show me ur abs or something because 1 of the older guys put his hand over yechan's stomach and said no yechan baby. He was 18 at the time so yes an adult in the US but not in korea.

it made me really grossed out yet thankful i don't have kids. Because of that and some things kq made even the 17 yos do I stopped listening to them.

I really wish the companies would tell the 18 year olds about how they're going to be treated as legal adults by both the fans and the law in most of the countries they travel to on tour.

Nugus have dated fans (day6, the wind and the ongoing situation with drippin) but they don't have the money and influence and networks that you know who had. Dating ur saseang fan and running a ring like that r worlds away from each other.

Like its not OK to date fans because of the power imbalance but legally if you're both consenting to it and ur saseang isn't trying to blackmail u into staying with them there's nothing for the police to do even in a more woke country.

2024 beat 2019 mainly because of the coup. If yoon had succeeded male kpop idols potentially would've been told to fire on protesters and he could’ve instituted an effeminate men ban just like China. Kpop is one of the only places fem queens like woongi can find work because there's no anti discrimination laws. a femme gay man is going to face discrimination when applying for jobs in industries that aren't majority queer. So if you can sing and dance and want to avoid enlisting for as long as possible then why not become an idol?

 Also under yoon Korean sex ed curriculum no longer talks about queer ppl or equality between men and women. And now transfems have to be on hrt for at least 6 months or they get sent to the army.

He could have made things so much worse not just for kpop idols but the whole country.

and then the plane crash happened.


Exactlyyy. I don't own merch for any fandom anymore

Because of something that happened with hp. Thankfully for me because of it I got out 5 years before she went mask off. But that incident/person (who isn't her) was still upsetting.

and I'm not into big4 groups anymore so if I bought something it would at least support a group that actually needs the money. Jungkook isn't going to become homeless if u don't buy the new album.

this is the other song.




And yes. I don't want my cats to feel afraid of me because I'm punching my bed or yelling and screaming or throwing things. Hence lying there quiet but angry.

yes it is.
It was kyujin from nmixx. Also the reason jini got kicked out was because a younite saseang saw her going into a love hotel with a member of younite.

This was all in the leak.

These r comments from pannchoa:

They need to be sued for what they said about Yuna alone.
It seems they had a clear focus on jyp ggs, esp nmixx, when that's not even their direct competition (unlike aespa or ive) to me that sounds like BSH himself has an inferiority complex towards JYP and that's why his bootlickers want to please him so much by putting down jyp's newest gg in direct comparison with BSH's own gg (lesserafim)

Out of all the absolutely disgusting things Hybe has pulled against other artist, the slander they've thrown at JYP and his artists is as low as they could possibly sink. Bang Si-hyuk owes JYP his entire career—yet he has no shame, no gratitude, and no integrity. He’s simply vile, a man driven by nothing but selfishness and spite.

Meanwhile he goes behind JYP’s back calling his idols feminist and ugly with no star appeal.

You know what they say, keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.

HYBE won an award that got them EXEMPTED for Tax Audit for a few years. This award is given to them by the Ministry of Labor where BSH father used to head. Team Bunnies first submitted an official letter to Ministry of Labor to retract the award so they can be audited but after learning of BSH’s dad connection w/ the sector they change strategy. This is why Team Bunnies have now submitted an official petition to the National Assembly who can command all these diff. government sectors. But before an official petition can be reviewed & granted they need to reach an official 50K signatures.

That taehyung dating rumors will allow the other members to date without scrutiny. Now think of how many times during the last two years his privacy was invaded and relate it to what fuck ass hybe is capable of doing.

They also based the mv for 0X1=LOVESONG” on a Yeonjun X Beomgyu fanfic.


Kpop is an addiction 4 some ppl and hybe once did a survey about armys mental health. A lot of the armys that are still in the fandom post the beginning of the enlistment era are mainly akgaes, cultists and shippers. (Although v akgaes ended up being right that the company was intentionally sabotaging him.)

V and bangpd have had issues since debut. He did the whole I have face blindness thing to him too. V is 💯 on the spectrum and ppl have literally done studies that show that neurotypical ppl can tell there's something off about us and usually end up hating us.

Most of the normal ppl have left bts behind entirely or they've left the fandom and just listen to bts in the privacy of their own home.

There was 1 person I personally thought was a reasonable army on Reddit. I ended up seeing an older post from them about the whole cookie situation and they were defending it, but then once MHJ turned on BTS and said all that shit about them all of a sudden it's "Oh, she's a horrible woman sexualizing minors."

For some people it really is just a fucking cult and whatever BTS says goes and a lot of people can't separate bts from the company.

Like no matter what SM group you like, you hate SM entertainment.

people might still be buying albums. But you are completely willing to call out the company. And say that these people are shit and terrible. But because Bang PD was like technically the eighth member of BTS and he created them and found them people feel like they can't ever say anything against him.

To question bangpd is to question bts and to question bts is to question God.

There was this one reddit post of this woman talking about I think her sister or sister in law who wasn't taking care of her kid properly because she was so obsessed and left them alone to go to a concert.
 

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I don't know if there's any jiwoong update accounts or fan sites on bluesky. But I have heard decent things about it.
Ooo I was curious about it! I think I might just check them out.
Although apparently white supremacist type people have realized that a lot of people are switching to there from Twitter, so they are beginning to get some brigading going on.
they ruin everything oh my gooood 😭
But yes, in general, cutting Twitter out of your life is always going to be a good decision.

Hopefully you're not leaving this forum right? 🙍🏻 who's going to obsess over yunjae and jiwoong with me? Lol.
I'm around! Well, for now, I have to go away for about a month or two in a week or so :palcry:
Ah.

yes a lot of them aren't getting paid. But you're initial thing was about fandom discourse. obviously a nugu group, especially a disbanded nugu group will have less fans and having less fans means there's less people to yell at each other and send protest trucks.
True!
Jfc that's horrible.
Yeah, it was awful!
What I mean is infinite is 15 years old and all that's come out is Hoya being racist and talking about wanting to be black and he isn't in the group anymore.
I feel more comfortable being their fan than a rookie group with teens that could be my kid.
I definitely get that!
I tried to be a music only fan with xikers and i ended up watching a fancam from their showcase tour in new york where someone must've yelled yechan show me ur abs or something because 1 of the older guys put his hand over yechan's stomach and said no yechan baby. He was 18 at the time so yes an adult in the US but not in korea.
I'm glad someone intervened!
it made me really grossed out yet thankful i don't have kids. Because of that and some things kq made even the 17 yos do I stopped listening to them.

I really wish the companies would tell the 18 year olds about how they're going to be treated as legal adults by both the fans and the law in most of the countries they travel to on tour.
Agreed! I don't think they are properly prepared for travel!
Nugus have dated fans (day6, the wind and the ongoing situation with drippin) but they don't have the money and influence and networks that you know who had. Dating ur saseang fan and running a ring like that r worlds away from each other.
I see what you're saying!
Like its not OK to date fans because of the power imbalance but legally if you're both consenting to it and ur saseang isn't trying to blackmail u into staying with them there's nothing for the police to do even in a more woke country.

2024 beat 2019 mainly because of the coup. If yoon had succeeded male kpop idols potentially would've been told to fire on protesters and he could’ve instituted an effeminate men ban just like China. Kpop is one of the only places fem queens like woongi can find work because there's no anti discrimination laws. a femme gay man is going to face discrimination when applying for jobs in industries that aren't majority queer. So if you can sing and dance and want to avoid enlisting for as long as possible then why not become an idol?
That is so very true! It was an extremely concerning period because, like a few other countries, it forces us to peek into how our society is not as stable as many of like to imagine it to be. One or a group of people could send us back to the 1900s with a few bad decisions.
 Also under yoon Korean sex ed curriculum no longer talks about queer ppl or equality between men and women. And now transfems have to be on hrt for at least 6 months or they get sent to the army.

He could have made things so much worse not just for kpop idols but the whole country.

and then the plane crash happened.
Exactly, very true! I was thinking more in the scope of K-pop, but I definitely see the seismic effects here.
Exactlyyy. I don't own merch for any fandom anymore

Because of something that happened with hp. Thankfully for me because of it I got out 5 years before she went mask off. But that incident/person (who isn't her) was still upsetting.

and I'm not into big4 groups anymore so if I bought something it would at least support a group that actually needs the money. Jungkook isn't going to become homeless if u don't buy the new album.'
Exactly!
this is the other song.




And yes. I don't want my cats to feel afraid of me because I'm punching my bed or yelling and screaming or throwing things. Hence lying there quiet but angry.

yes it is.
It was kyujin from nmixx. Also the reason jini got kicked out was because a younite saseang saw her going into a love hotel with a member of younite.

This was all in the leak.

These r comments from pannchoa:

They need to be sued for what they said about Yuna alone.
It seems they had a clear focus on jyp ggs, esp nmixx, when that's not even their direct competition (unlike aespa or ive) to me that sounds like BSH himself has an inferiority complex towards JYP and that's why his bootlickers want to please him so much by putting down jyp's newest gg in direct comparison with BSH's own gg (lesserafim)

Out of all the absolutely disgusting things Hybe has pulled against other artist, the slander they've thrown at JYP and his artists is as low as they could possibly sink. Bang Si-hyuk owes JYP his entire career—yet he has no shame, no gratitude, and no integrity. He’s simply vile, a man driven by nothing but selfishness and spite.

Meanwhile he goes behind JYP’s back calling his idols feminist and ugly with no star appeal.

You know what they say, keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.

HYBE won an award that got them EXEMPTED for Tax Audit for a few years. This award is given to them by the Ministry of Labor where BSH father used to head. Team Bunnies first submitted an official letter to Ministry of Labor to retract the award so they can be audited but after learning of BSH’s dad connection w/ the sector they change strategy. This is why Team Bunnies have now submitted an official petition to the National Assembly who can command all these diff. government sectors. But before an official petition can be reviewed & granted they need to reach an official 50K signatures.
I remember hearing about this!
That taehyung dating rumors will allow the other members to date without scrutiny. Now think of how many times during the last two years his privacy was invaded and relate it to what fuck ass hybe is capable of doing.
They also based the mv for 0X1=LOVESONG” on a Yeonjun X Beomgyu fanfic.


Kpop is an addiction 4 some ppl and hybe once did a survey about armys mental health. A lot of the armys that are still in the fandom post the beginning of the enlistment era are mainly akgaes, cultists and shippers. (Although v akgaes ended up being right that the company was intentionally sabotaging him.)
This is going to sound messed up, but the arc that made me dislike BTS was the "love yourself" era. It felt like they were commercializing mental health and self-image in a way I was very uncomfortable with. So, I've always see that line as blurred.
V and bangpd have had issues since debut. He did the whole I have face blindness thing to him too. V is 💯 on the spectrum and ppl have literally done studies that show that neurotypical ppl can tell there's something off about us and usually end up hating us.

Most of the normal ppl have left bts behind entirely or they've left the fandom and just listen to bts in the privacy of their own home.

There was 1 person I personally thought was a reasonable army on Reddit. I ended up seeing an older post from them about the whole cookie situation and they were defending it, but then once MHJ turned on BTS and said all that shit about them all of a sudden it's "Oh, she's a horrible woman sexualizing minors."
See, that has been my beef with most people going against NJ and MHJ? I don't like MHJ (though, I do think she has an immaculate talent for art direction) and I never got into NJ because I found them creepy (sorry to everyone but ILLIT is even creepier to me :palcry:) I just feel like so many people are throwing out that she is a deviant... but everyone knew all of these facts when they were running up numbers for songs backed by her? She was a perfect genius until she wasn't on the side of HYBE anymore???
For some people it really is just a fucking cult and whatever BTS says goes and a lot of people can't separate bts from the company.
See, that is why this situation is killing me. It isn't BTS. Somehow it is HYBE? I feel like way too many people are in HYBE's hands??? I've seen Army defend HYBE against BTS??? :TzuyuKek:
Like no matter what SM group you like, you hate SM entertainment.

people might still be buying albums. But you are completely willing to call out the company. And say that these people are shit and terrible. But because Bang PD was like technically the eighth member of BTS and he created them and found them people feel like they can't ever say anything against him.

To question bangpd is to question bts and to question bts is to question God.
Exactly???? It is to the point that even non-fans seem to be bleeding into this? :TzuyuKek: I don't understand how they are able to induce such a particular fog??
There was this one reddit post of this woman talking about I think her sister or sister in law who wasn't taking care of her kid properly because she was so obsessed and left them alone to go to a concert.
That is so freaking awful, oh my god.
 
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