The Gay and Queer in Kpop Thread

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He might be 1 of the only straight guys in the wishies and apparently this was a meme but...ehhh proof he isn't a motae solo maybe? šŸ¤·šŸ»

I'm just trying 2 get things off my phone.

Idk that this is really a receipt of anything but he definitely is quoting a meme. Not that the implication isn't obvious and he might have also meant it to be taken genuinely. Oh Sion fucks and water is wet lol

The wishies are such a close group paired with the very shipper friendly concept makes it hard to say much about them. There's a million clips of them flirting with each other, going on dates, calling each other their boyfriend, etc. They're a pretty dedicated cute concept group too which tends to make everyone look a little gayer by aesthetics alone. The poppop mv makes it very clear their creative team know the image and are intentionally going for it.

They barely interact with other NCT members let alone idols outside of the group so it's hard to get a vibe on them that isn't just reading into things (ie the Yujin/Sakuya friendship, Yushi looking flustered talking to literally any dude, Sion's gaggle of hyungs, etc).

The only real receipts are Yushi being an exo fanboy (Kai bias) and Ryo being an NCT fanboy/Doyoung stan. In Yushi's case I wouldn't be that surprised if he's ace though.

I know Sakuya pings for people but idk yes he likes jewelry and can pull off a sassy walk but is that really enough to call somebody gay? He is sort of a "doesnt like skinship" idol but it feels more like a front in his case since frankly Ryo and Sion are all over him constantly. There's this one clip of Sion straddling him and if he is gay lord help him I know I would never recover from that.

I've talked about Riku before but that granny fashion he does reads very gay straight men aren't leaving the house in head scarfs.

Some little recentish moments I can recall

13:04 Riku back from hiatus and the first thing he does on camera is flirt with Sion.

21:20 Sakuya calling Sion his boyfriend.
 
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Idk that this is really a receipt of anything but he definitely is quoting a meme. Not that the implication isn't obvious and he might have also meant it to be taken genuinely. Oh Sion fucks and water is wet lol

The wishies are such a close group paired with the very shipper friendly concept makes it hard to say much about them. There's a million clips of them flirting with each other, going on dates, calling each other their boyfriend, etc. They're a pretty dedicated cute concept group too which tends to make everyone look a little gayer by aesthetics alone. The poppop mv makes it very clear their creative team know the image and are intentionally going for it.

They barely interact with other NCT members let alone idols outside of the group so it's hard to get a vibe on them that isn't just reading into things (ie the Yujin/Sakuya friendship, Yushi looking flustered talking to literally any dude, Sion's gaggle of hyungs, etc).

The only real receipts are Yushi being an exo fanboy (Kai bias) and Ryo being an NCT fanboy/Doyoung stan. In Yushi's case I wouldn't be that surprised if he's ace though.

I know Sakuya pings for people but idk yes he likes jewelry and can pull off a sassy walk but is that really enough to call somebody gay? He is sort of a "doesnt like skinship" idol but it feels more like a front in his case since frankly Ryo and Sion are all over him constantly. There's this one clip of Sion straddling him and if he is gay lord help him I know I would never recover from that.

I've talked about Riku before but that granny fashion he does reads very gay straight men aren't leaving the house in head scarfs.

Some little recentish moments I can recall

13:04 Riku back from hiatus and the first thing he does on camera is flirt with Sion.

21:20 Sakuya calling Sion his boyfriend.
Nothing note worthy but Sakuya is also friends with Harua of &team they were spotted shopping togethe in japan, also friends with JayJay (former hybe trainee) he was spotted with a picture of sakuya in his phone case.
 
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Is this the NCT Wish guy who pings for everyone or am I mistaken? Riku right?



The replies to this... let me keep my mouth shut

Yes that's riku 😭
Everyone saying in the replies they knew taemin was straight because he said that men and women can't be friends but I have watched the video before where he said that and Taemin later admitted in the video that he was opposing all relationships just for the sake of the discussion.
 
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Yes that's riku 😭
Everyone saying in the replies they knew taemin was straight because he said that men and women can't be friends but I have watched the video before where he said that and Taemin later admitted in the video that he was opposing all relationships just for the sake of the discussion.

Also shawols know that taemin purposely says things that contradict the members just to get on their nerves jokingly
 

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Yes that's riku 😭
Everyone saying in the replies they knew taemin was straight because he said that men and women can't be friends but I have watched the video before where he said that and Taemin later admitted in the video that he was opposing all relationships just for the sake of the discussion.

I hate when people act like everything is black and white. I don't doubt he can be straight, but my god, people don't do nuances at all. And it is 2025.

PD: Riku so cute
 
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Kind of cruel to do this to him when he cried meeting Xiumin but hey content is content. This is so much that it looks staged but I doubt it actually was. Since he's been a fan since he was a very little kid there's kind of a gray area of "he's just his role model" that people often say. I'll let you all decide how gay Yushi's Kai obsession is lmao
 

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Kind of cruel to do this to him when he cried meeting Xiumin but hey content is content. This is so much that it looks staged but I doubt it actually was. Since he's been a fan since he was a very little kid there's kind of a gray area of "he's just his role model" that people often say. I'll let you all decide how gay Yushi's Kai obsession is lmao

I think there is a bit of both. I think his reaction is of someone who is a big fan, but also, of a guy who idolizes another guy and is kind of crushing on him, if you know what I mean. Like all the men I was a fan of I also had a thing for, unlike the women which I became a fan for the love of their work (not saying it is always like that, but that it is a possibility).
 

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One thing I have noticed is how much more... unconcerned idols are with their image these days. Like of course, skinship and softness is more accepted in Korea and society will always assume everyone is straight. But the new idols from Gen 4 on, they aren't as "guarded", and it's ocasionally "easier" to tell when someone could be queer.
 

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Hey new member here!! Just wanted to put forward that I think Changmin/Q from TBZ is very obviously queer but I haven’t really seen him mentioned here like Kevin or Chanhee are! I did go back and read this whole forum from the start in one or two sittings though, so I might have just missed it if it was haha. He seems to be widely accepted as a queer member among fans online though who seem to all agree on Kevin, Chanhee, and Changmin.
 

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Can I say that this thread rubs the wrong way? Like I know we are in a forum doing kind of the same thing but like, the way this is done and the things they highlight seem so… off? I don’t know.



And also saying bisexual when there is nothing bisexual in that thread. Almost reads as, ā€œhere is this guy acting gay but im gonna say it is bisexual because I still want him to like girlsā€.
 

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Hey new member here!! Just wanted to put forward that I think Changmin/Q from TBZ is very obviously queer but I haven’t really seen him mentioned here like Kevin or Chanhee are! I did go back and read this whole forum from the start in one or two sittings though, so I might have just missed it if it was haha. He seems to be widely accepted as a queer member among fans online though who seem to all agree on Kevin, Chanhee, and Changmin.
I don't think we've talked about Changmin much here primarily because it seems like there's nothing current to talk about I guess? Granted I don't follow them super closely. Whether he or Soobin were actually dating, it seems like since that bond isnt so public facing anymore he's pretty low key about it? I still remember him saying his ideal type was someone like his mom which is.. :jy: I think he's just sort of more private compared to the others.
Can I say that this thread rubs the wrong way? Like I know we are in a forum doing kind of the same thing but like, the way this is done and the things they highlight seem so… off? I don’t know.



And also saying bisexual when there is nothing bisexual in that thread. Almost reads as, ā€œhere is this guy acting gay but im gonna say it is bisexual because I still want him to like girlsā€.

I think its fine. I feel like a lot of fans do this sort of lightweight ___ is bi/gay because of these little mannerisms and also because I like them. I don't think it's offensive or anything. A lot of what we talk about here is more parasocial and many don't vibe with that but still want to relate to idols in the same way. Some people like forums like this, others like silly little threads, and others only care about idols holding up pride flags. To each their own imo don't throw rocks from a glass house as they say
 

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I don't think we've talked about Changmin much here primarily because it seems like there's nothing current to talk about I guess? Granted I don't follow them super closely. Whether he or Soobin were actually dating, it seems like since that bond isnt so public facing anymore he's pretty low key about it? I still remember him saying his ideal type was someone like his mom which is.. :jy: I think he's just sort of more private compared to the others.

I think its fine. I feel like a lot of fans do this sort of lightweight ___ is bi/gay because of these little mannerisms and also because I like them. I don't think it's offensive or anything. A lot of what we talk about here is more parasocial and many don't vibe with that but still want to relate to idols in the same way. Some people like forums like this, others like silly little threads, and others only care about idols holding up pride flags. To each their own imo don't throw rocks from a glass house as they say

Yeah I get you he is quite private! True, that answer is a little iffy but I also kind of think of it as an easy get out of jail free card type of answer TBH! He hasn’t really said anything else about an ideal type, but he and Chanhee both said last year that they don’t want to get married and have told their parents which šŸ‘€

Not sure how to double reply/quote, sorry, so @us3 yeah there was definitely something going on there between those two, and it seems like they are still close as Soobin went to TBZ fancon back in January while he was on hiatus!
 

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Yeah I get you he is quite private! True, that answer is a little iffy but I also kind of think of it as an easy get out of jail free card type of answer TBH! He hasn’t really said anything else about an ideal type, but he and Chanhee both said last year that they don’t want to get married and have told their parents which šŸ‘€

Not sure how to double reply/quote, sorry, so @us3 yeah there was definitely something going on there between those two, and it seems like they are still close as Soobin went to TBZ fancon back in January while he was on hiatus!
On the bottom right of every post there is both quote and reply, if you want to multiquote hit quote on one and then multiquote on however many you'd like. When you go to make a new post the site will prompt you to multi quote, you can remove quotes if you don't want to quote them anymore otherwise just proceed with everything you've quoted and it will all get added to the post.

I think the ideal type is my mom thing is so contentious lol either it's very sweet to your mom or it's a total red flag. I think a gay dude might think not about the red flag aspect (ie just want a girlfriend who will mother you) and say it like it's a get out of jail free card like you said to not have to say your actual ideal type lol
 

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Can I say that this thread rubs the wrong way? Like I know we are in a forum doing kind of the same thing but like, the way this is done and the things they highlight seem so… off? I don’t know.

i can totally see your point... it's true that we're all having fun and finding avenues to relate to our idols in our own ways but i just can't tell if they're being serious or mostly ironic with these lines of reasoning and it weirds me out lmao. "aura" is a very vague term though, so can't really criticise it seriously either. to each their own indeed.
 
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