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Seems to be a slight variation in numbers compared to Pepper's physicals spreadsheet.
- According to the tweet, &Twice sales for 200101-200531 is 58.166.
- According to the spreadsheet, &Twice sales for 200106-200531 is 43,989.
- &Twice sales (spreadsheet) for 191230~200105 is 3,087. If we allocate all those sales to 2020 Jan-May, total indicated would be 47,076
- There is a difference of 11,090 compared to the figures in the tweet. Assuming the tweet numbers are correct, then the &Twice overall sales total on the spreadsheet should be 229,330, not 218,240.
- @Pepper, please CMIIW
Definitely much more than that. Twice has a ton of b-sides compared to other groups. Even I have a hard time keeping up with my b-side playlist, especially since Twice keeps distracting me by making new content on YT and vlive.
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nah,, they are not yet playing in jamsil stadium so i will assure they are atleast have 15-20k official ONCE's that buying ONCE 3rd gen, i think
izone fans in korea also catching up to numbers of k-onces, because their b-sides actually charting for a while.. maybe difference gender demographic?? dudes didnt stream b-sides while female will stream that.
TOP BG in korea are definitely have atleast 50k+++ official fandom members. thats why BTS EXO SVT can play in jamsil stadium.
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That Gang song is losing steam pretty fast, it seems, so hopefully we can overtake it on daily as well.
That Gang song is losing steam pretty fast, it seems, so hopefully we can overtake it on daily as well.
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i really thought they will have some boost on hanteo? but no??
im so confused tbh
anyway, digital seems stable now.. around 4-5
im so confused tbh
anyway, digital seems stable now.. around 4-5
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Seems low compared to Feel Special, but have in mind that it's their first time using once japan shop to sell korean albums, and on the site it's says
that they will start sending albums from mid-june so they are not counted yet. I don't know how big sales will be from there, but considering that they have some additional merch attached and event where twice will send video with your name to you I think there could be a lot of orders from there. I think we need to wait for another week or maybe 2 to see where we actually standing at.
Seems low compared to Feel Special, but have in mind that it's their first time using once japan shop to sell korean albums, and on the site it's says
that they will start sending albums from mid-june so they are not counted yet. I don't know how big sales will be from there, but considering that they have some additional merch attached and event where twice will send video with your name to you I think there could be a lot of orders from there. I think we need to wait for another week or maybe 2 to see where we actually standing at.
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To be fair the song is really match for summer, koreans should eat that.Back to #4 on melon daily today. Bless
no way their hype is already down in jpn? I see their stream still strong this distribution thing really make me confused a lot. Hanteo week 2 is still low. Ithought we gonna have big jump ngl but it seems negative..
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Maybe-but Feel Special had a big week 1 but it sales kind of overall still fell back in line with Yes or Yes and Fancy You-in fact kinda ended up a lil worse.
So 48.8k in 8 days seems pretty much in line with their old releases and with factors like TwiceJapan might not have shipped, plus do we know if it's even an Oricon point of sale?
We also have to account for the fact some J Once wanted to help with the records so a small number ordered online since it wasn't available in the first week in Japan.
Considering the buying period was directly competing with FanFare and neither can really receive much to any promo right now in Japan I think it's sales being in line with Fancy You and Feel Special is pretty much good...around what I expected tbh.
The only way I see it being an issue is if in the next 2-3 weeks it takes massive tumbles and just falls completely off from previous albums numbers. 90% of J fans don't care about chasing record like K, I and C Once did so I don't think they were ever going to augment their buying habits much at all.
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doing almost same pace like fancy.
finally JYPE restock Twice album
i think Fancy has good chance to have 100m stream on gaon but idk feel special can do that or not, why koreans didnt like that song its so good tbh.
summer anthem is back, i really wonder what highest peak for dtna this year, korean sure love this song..
do you think any group will get PAK this year??? soribada should remove realtime or remove them from ichart.
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It will be tough for Feel Special to pick up a plat streaming cert....I think for sure Fancy has a good shot at it-esp since early 2019 digital downloads sharply fell on Gaon so a lot of it's index is made up from streaming.
I think sometime this year we will see plat DL for YoY and WIL and probably streams for Fancy in the next few months.
As for groups getting a PAK? Yeah I can see it for sure-we can see with the 700k UL's from a largely opinion splitting song people were anticipating TWICE-Same for BTS got high enough UL's for a song not very friendly to the public....the interest in idols is clearly still there so with the right song yeah for sure.
I think if TWICE cameback with a song like Yes or Yes again I think they could do it-esp if the songs was in a favorable release window. But I don't see that happening as they are not really in a position where a PAK does much for them-they should focus more on songs that satisfy the current fanbase and push to grow it like Fancy and Feel Special in particular.
But anyone form BTS, BP, RV and TWICE could get a PAK this year easily with the right title track-I mean all have the public ear and a big enough fanbase to carry the song against most competitors.
I think sometime this year we will see plat DL for YoY and WIL and probably streams for Fancy in the next few months.
As for groups getting a PAK? Yeah I can see it for sure-we can see with the 700k UL's from a largely opinion splitting song people were anticipating TWICE-Same for BTS got high enough UL's for a song not very friendly to the public....the interest in idols is clearly still there so with the right song yeah for sure.
I think if TWICE cameback with a song like Yes or Yes again I think they could do it-esp if the songs was in a favorable release window. But I don't see that happening as they are not really in a position where a PAK does much for them-they should focus more on songs that satisfy the current fanbase and push to grow it like Fancy and Feel Special in particular.
But anyone form BTS, BP, RV and TWICE could get a PAK this year easily with the right title track-I mean all have the public ear and a big enough fanbase to carry the song against most competitors.
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Twice debut on the United World Album chart.
A crazy debut to be honest-This is almost the same as Fancy You and Feel Special combined as they came in with 179k and 216k respectively. Insane. It's also I believe their first time hitting the number 1 spot.
A crazy debut to be honest-This is almost the same as Fancy You and Feel Special combined as they came in with 179k and 216k respectively. Insane. It's also I believe their first time hitting the number 1 spot.
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So FanFare is so far doing better than F&T on some J charts. It was #1 yesterday on Mu-Mo streaming chart and still 3 today. Given it's close proximity to More & More both seem so far to be having a strong showing on the charts. I even spied Feel Special was still knocking about fairly high on Mora, Mu-Mo and Recochoku.
But to anyone more experienced than me at this-could someone tell me if they know whether or not TwiceJapan store is an Oricon point of sale? I can't find any confirmation that it is...at this point I'm leaning toward it not being an Oricon POS.
If so that's kind of odd since according to Hanteo it's also not part of the Hanteo Family...so sales on that site seem, at least from what I can tell, to be 'dead' sales. Meaning we'll only see them on Gaon and not specifically so it'll likely make the Hanteo+Oricon to Gaon ratio a little wider than other groups.
I notice that YG, Weverse and SM are all in some level certified by Hanteo but seems to me Twice's store isn't.
But to anyone more experienced than me at this-could someone tell me if they know whether or not TwiceJapan store is an Oricon point of sale? I can't find any confirmation that it is...at this point I'm leaning toward it not being an Oricon POS.
If so that's kind of odd since according to Hanteo it's also not part of the Hanteo Family...so sales on that site seem, at least from what I can tell, to be 'dead' sales. Meaning we'll only see them on Gaon and not specifically so it'll likely make the Hanteo+Oricon to Gaon ratio a little wider than other groups.
I notice that YG, Weverse and SM are all in some level certified by Hanteo but seems to me Twice's store isn't.
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jyp doesnt care about records.. let them be.. or i hope next comeback they fixed it so they can have hanteo certified
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Yeah I always thought it was-But Hanteo requires you to display your cert in store and on websites-but JYPEs Twice store doesn't have one, so I checked the list of certified retailers and was surprised to see JYPE not on their, kinda odd since all other top labels are.
I can only assume it's because TWICE don't have an official store for Korean releases and instead just sell them to Japan Once on TwiceJapan so maybe the company feels it's not worth paying for certification? Who knows.
I'm just curious as to whether or not it's also not a registered Oricon point of sales-since they supposedly sold a sizable number of albums through that site this time around and I don't think we'll see those sales show up on anything but gaon. Who knows.
Also. Just saw that at some point throughout the day at some point all of Twice back catalog sans What is Love? showed up on Hanteo RT chart.
So it seems the stock issues over the last 2 months are finally being resolved.
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If you are referring to the OnceJapan fan club preorders, I don't think OnceJapan is a certified retailer or even considered a retailer. It seems more like a twitter GO than an actual shop, since they don't have any retail certification. The preorder page refers to the orders as "import edition", which suggests that they won't be picked up by Oricon. But the info page does say that it will be reflected under Hanteo:
As far as I know, JYPE does not have a physical or online store (not counting pop-up stores) selling their own artists' albums and merch, unlike SM and YG with SMTown and YGSelect. Probably because they don't have a million+ selling BG to support those retail operations. The only thing remotely similar is JYP's coffee outlets, which sells JYPE merch, but not albums.
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Ah yes so I assume they have no Hanteo displayed certificate since it's not a store that regularly sells albums. Yeah-so I'm going to assume they have some kind of arrangement where they directly reported the sales to Hanteo.
I kind of thought it wouldn't be an Oricon point of sale since they tend to be strict about that so I think TwiceJapan will have cut somewhat into the Oricon sales this time around.