The Gay and Queer in Kpop Thread

[EphemeralGayz]

What does everyone think of both Holland naming Keeho as his ideal type and the backlash he's apparently getting?

I posed this to the discord as well, but the conversation here feels heartier.

 

[RussianRoulette]

What does everyone think of both Holland naming Keeho as his ideal type and the backlash he's apparently getting?

I posed this to the discord as well, but the conversation here feels heartier.

Holland has been getting backlash overseas since he openly said he supported Hyuna (I believe he tried to post an excuse/apology but then deleted it which pissed people off more).

I honestly don’t pay too much attention to Holland anymore, he seems like an attention grabber to me at times.

People have been debating Keeho’s sexuality for years. I wouldn’t be surprised if he intentionally tweeted about Keeho just to stir the pot and get people to see his new song he just dropped.

 

[mimenet]

What does everyone think of both Holland naming Keeho as his ideal type and the backlash he's apparently getting?

I posed this to the discord as well, but the conversation here feels heartier.

I think if Holland was a western celebrity nobody would care what he says, it's only because he's attached to overprotective kpop idol fan circles that he gets backlash at all. Kind of reminds me of when CupcakKe said she wanted to fuck Jungkook but the tame version. Honestly he probably wouldn't have said it if he didn't know Keeho and know he'd be okay with it.

I get why he called himself an idol originally as it leant itself well to media attention but tbh he's not really actually an idol and shouldn't be held to the standard of one. He's a messy gay who spends too much time online and that's okay. His new song is good (produced by Sumin hello?) and he's serving that's all I care about. He could post detailed sexual fantasies and I wouldn't care. Keeho posted thirst tweets about Jimin predebut iirc so I'm sure he gets it lol

 

[EphemeralGayz]

Holland has been getting backlash overseas since he openly said he supported Hyuna (I believe he tried to post an excuse/apology but then deleted it which pissed people off more).

I honestly don’t pay too much attention to Holland anymore, he seems like an attention grabber to me at times.

People have been debating Keeho’s sexuality for years. I wouldn’t be surprised if he intentionally tweeted about Keeho just to stir the pot and get people to see his new song he just dropped.

This is kinda my take as well. He makes me uneasy because it's never good news.

 

[EphemeralGayz]

I think if Holland was a western celebrity nobody would care what he says, it's only because he's attached to overprotective kpop idol fan circles that he gets backlash at all. Kind of reminds me of when CupcakKe said she wanted to fuck Jungkook but the tame version. Honestly he probably wouldn't have said it if he didn't know Keeho and know he'd be okay with it.

I get why he called himself an idol originally as it leant itself well to media attention but tbh he's not really actually an idol and shouldn't be held to the standard of one. He's a messy gay who spends too much time online and that's okay. His new song is good (produced by Sumin hello?) and he's serving that's all I care about. He could post detailed sexual fantasies and I wouldn't care. Keeho posted thirst tweets about Jimin predebut iirc so I'm sure he gets it lol

Interesting. I understand the distance between him and idol-hood. And I don't remember if he got backlash for his interactions with Lil nasx, but those made me even more uncomfortable.

 

[EphemeralGayz]

Can I request cute things be posted while America burns itself? Haha. Or is that too political? I totally understand if it is.

 

[mimenet]

Dont know if any of you have been keeping up with the new NCT boys but boy have they been pinging me. Almost all of them lol

Can I request cute things be posted while America burns itself? Haha. Or is that too political? I totally understand if it is.

Here's this clip of Sion talking very fondly about his first impression of Riku and then Riku basically just says "You're hot so I was embarrassed to talk to you" lmao

 

[EphemeralGayz]

Dont know if any of you have been keeping up with the new NCT boys but boy have they been pinging me. Almost all of them lol





Here's this clip of Sion talking very fondly about his first impression of Riku and then Riku basically just says "You're hot so I was embarrassed to talk to you" lmao

Yushi and Sakuya ping for me, but they're also so young I didn't follow super closely. Haha

 

[mimenet]

Yushi and Sakuya ping for me, but they're also so young I didn't follow super closely. Haha

Sakuya really? He's just such a kid to me that I don't see it lol but Yushi yeah for sure. Riku pings the most for me though and Ryo's Doyoung fanboy backstory is obviously suspicious but he was also so young that it could easily be nothing.

 

[EphemeralGayz]

Sakuya really? He's just such a kid to me that I don't see it lol but Yushi yeah for sure. Riku pings the most for me though and Ryo's Doyoung fanboy backstory is obviously suspicious but he was also so young that it could easily be nothing.

They're all young. Maybe I got started early, but I began the coming out process before middle school. So it's definitely a possibility. Haha. I'll have to pay more attention to Riku. Any guy whose bias is Doyoung isn't suspicious. They're on the team by default. Johnny or Mark. Even Yuta. Maybe. But Doyoung? Nah. Lol

 

[French_Fries]

There is this show Starlight Boys that is very similar to Boys Planet and a Chinese trainee is gaining a lot of attention for his looks and people somehow dug out his Douyin (Chinese tiktok) and there are pictures and videos of him with his boyfriend.
There are two things happening right now 1. He's getting a ton of hate and 2. People are voting for him only because he is gay, both of which are bad.
Also talking about Boys Planet what do people think of Sung Hanbin? I think they are trying to prop him up to be this perfect boyfriend figure that Cha Eunwoo is right now.
I remember back in the old thread people talked of Lee Know a lot, does everyone still hold the same opinion of him now?

 

[diaoys]

Sakuya really? He's just such a kid to me that I don't see it lol but Yushi yeah for sure. Riku pings the most for me though and Ryo's Doyoung fanboy backstory is obviously suspicious but he was also so young that it could easily be nothing.

what are your thoughts on jaehee?

 

[mimenet]

There is this show Starlight Boys that is very similar to Boys Planet and a Chinese trainee is gaining a lot of attention for his looks and people somehow dug out his Douyin (Chinese tiktok) and there are pictures and videos of him with his boyfriend.
There are two things happening right now 1. He's getting a ton of hate and 2. People are voting for him only because he is gay, both of which are bad.

Xinche right? Somebody was telling me about this and I got the impression he was already a decently succesful influencer before the show and that all the content with his boyfriend was pretty public? The show PDs presumably already vetted him and knew what they were getting into it? Either way I don't really think it's bad to vote for him just because he's queer, but I'm not a proponent of "only vote for talent" anyway. The general hallyu fan sphere seems pretty hungry for an out celebrity who is more mainstream or stereotypically kpop anyway.

what are your thoughts on jaehee?

Honestly I've never gotten any vibe from Jaehee so he's just sort of het by default to me I guess. Part of that might be that he's way less camera trained/doesn't have the same amount of idol personality training/isn't as talkative as the other members. It seems like he kind of just stumbled into being an idol which doesn't have anything to do with the topic of this thread but it does make it harder to get a read on. Since his "persona" is essentially just "regular guy" he kind of reads straight by virtue of heteronormativity I guess.

 

[French_Fries]

Xinche right? Somebody was telling me about this and I got the impression he was already a decently succesful influencer before the show and that all the content with his boyfriend was pretty public? The show PDs presumably already vetted him and knew what they were getting into it? Either way I don't really think it's bad to vote for him just because he's queer, but I'm not a proponent of "only vote for talent" anyway. The general hallyu fan sphere seems pretty hungry for an out celebrity who is more mainstream or stereotypically kpop anyway.

Yes, that's him. Twitter has been rather harsh on him.

 

[diaoys]

What you guys think about ONEUS? Seoho really pings me. specially there is a video he talks about having lots of fanboys, being popular with guys and etc (and looks like he is enjoying it lol)

 

[diaoys]

Honestly I've never gotten any vibe from Jaehee so he's just sort of het by default to me I guess. Part of that might be that he's way less camera trained/doesn't have the same amount of idol personality training/isn't as talkative as the other members. It seems like he kind of just stumbled into being an idol which doesn't have anything to do with the topic of this thread but it does make it harder to get a read on. Since his "persona" is essentially just "regular guy" he kind of reads straight by virtue of heteronormativity I guess.

Yeah exactly. In general none of the members give queer vibes ( to me) ( except maybe Riku but idk)

 

[mimenet]

What you guys think about ONEUS? Seoho really pings me. specially there is a video he talks about having lots of fanboys, being popular with guys and etc (and looks like he is enjoying it lol)

I feel like I recall him once saying that his benefit to the company is that he doesn't date girls?? Oneus are definitely one of the queerest seeming groups out there and RBW as a whole are like that, to the point I imagine it can't be coincidence? I think Leedo is the only one who hasn't pinged me (and Ravn but obviously he's been out of the picture) but I admittedly haven't really been keeping up with them much lately. I was always a Onewe stan who just sort of stanned Oneus by the connection tbh




Has everyone seen Bibi's MV for Derre? She's obviously no stranger to pushing limits but I still think it's nice to see a pretty blatantly sapphic mv from a very big and mainstream artist in Korea right now.

 

[Enchanted2night]

I saw people talking about LSH and Hoshi but in the most recent video I watched , hoshi was talking about plans on getting married someday with a wife. I was also surprised to see mingyu mentioned as anything other than straight. Idk I've always gotten the impression he was straight, getting dating rumors with somi and the way he kept staring at that one interviewer. Soobin also seems pretty straight to me, fans have been discussing how he's into girls with blonde hair.

 

[mimenet]

I saw people talking about LSH and Hoshi but in the most recent video I watched , hoshi was talking about plans on getting married someday with a wife. I was also surprised to see mingyu mentioned as anything other than straight. Idk I've always gotten the impression he was straight, getting dating rumors with somi and the way he kept staring at that one interviewer. Soobin also seems pretty straight to me, fans have been discussing how he's into girls with blonde hair.

It's not that uncommon for bi guys in more conservative countries to have an end goal of marrying a woman and having a family even if they might like/date guys in the moment. Plenty of other often theorized guys have brought up the wife thing before (Doyoung said something similar recently iirc) and combined with the whole "low birth rate" issue in Korea I don't think it's a meaningless statement but there's definitely some nuance to it.

 

[Enchanted2night]

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