The Gay and Queer in Kpop Thread

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Appreciate your detailed posts lol

I think to me it is pretty noticeable in all of those I mentioned because you don't reach your 40s and say "im too lazy to date" if you are straight. I get the culture of SK and the expectations for public figures there are ridiculous but how long can you keep that facade and the image of a single man for women to swoon and fantasize? At one point you gotta put yourself first and stop pandering. Also, their energy and gestures and the way they carry themselves is not what straight people would. Like, controversies and personalities aside, LJJ in my eyes is not a straight man. Like you compare him to LBH or PHS and it is crystal clear that the way they carry themselves is different to him. Of course this is 100% especulation and a lot of stereotypes at play but he just pings. Add to that that he is in his 50s, never married and not kids and his longest relationship has been with JWS (who to me is as bi as it comes). I've talked with fans of them and the amount of info and tea there is over the years with those two is wild.

If I had to rank the actors I mentioned like I did for BTS: Yoo Ah In, Im Siwan, Gong Yoo, Sandeul, Lee Jung Jae, Kang Haneul, Lee Dongwook, Jung woo sung.

First two are just very obvious. Like I said Gong Yoo, for a gay person may be more clockable and he pulls a convincing straight image in general. Sandeul is someone who you may not think he is but if you stop and think it becomes clear. LJJ I said it before. Kang Haneul has that aura that a gay theater kid has, even tho he is not as obvious with it (he does ping though). LDW reminds me of my gay uncle in the sense that he has that energy of single boojie gay. JWS is stereotypical bi.

If anyone has any other contenders feel free to post about it lol
With sandeul 4 me it's literally simply gay face.

Gong yoo: I don't watch mainstream shows for the most part. But I have a bunch of kboo articles about them.

Kang Haneul 💯 gay theater kid. Checked his wiki. Will post had to take cat to vet.

Lee dong wook does have a vibe but I'd still say bi. Sucks for me personally that he's kinda 😬 because he's indigenous on his mom's side and I'm Haudenosaunee Mohawk on my maternal grandma's side so boo that a kceleb that could hypothetically be super distantly related to me is like that.


This doesn't have subs. Sorry.






"During Because I Want To Talk, Lee Dong Wook had his genetics tested by Professor Yoo Sung Ho who teaches at Seoul University.

There, the professor revealed that Lee Dong Wook actually has genes that are only found in 1% of the Korean population!

Lee Dong Wook’s genes revealed that he’s actually part Siberian! The professor clarified that Lee Dong Wook is most certainly Korean, but he has Siberian heritage, which is extremely rare among Koreans!

(Hate how this is worded. Lee dong wook has Korean citizenship. Ethnically he's Korean and Siberian. It's not that fucking hard.)

The professor explained that Lee Dong Wook’s porcelain white skin, which is uncommon among Koreans, most likely comes from his Siberian heritage!"


According to Lee's results, a significant part of his mother's genetic makeup matches that of Koryaks and Khakas people—both ethnic groups that are indigenous to Siberia (to be more specific, Kamchatka and Khakassia respectively.

...has this professor seen a Siberian person b4? Like there are tan Korean ppl but most of them aren't that many shades away from this person.


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Also I've seen pics where he isn’t super white. Its probably make up and body make up and photoshop.


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Compared to this Pic where they edit out his moles

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Literally the same magazine 🤦🏻

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It's more accurate to say that might be where his unique facial features come from. End of rant.
Incidental gay Pic found while looking for these.

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Appreciate your detailed posts lol

I think to me it is pretty noticeable in all of those I mentioned because you don't reach your 40s and say "im too lazy to date" if you are straight. I get the culture of SK and the expectations for public figures there are ridiculous but how long can you keep that facade and the image of a single man for women to swoon and fantasize? At one point you gotta put yourself first and stop pandering. Also, their energy and gestures and the way they carry themselves is not what straight people would. Like, controversies and personalities aside, LJJ in my eyes is not a straight man. Like you compare him to LBH or PHS and it is crystal clear that the way they carry themselves is different to him. Of course this is 100% especulation and a lot of stereotypes at play but he just pings. Add to that that he is in his 50s, never married and not kids and his longest relationship has been with JWS (who to me is as bi as it comes). I've talked with fans of them and the amount of info and tea there is over the years with those two is wild.

If I had to rank the actors I mentioned like I did for BTS: Yoo Ah In, Im Siwan, Gong Yoo, Sandeul, Lee Jung Jae, Kang Haneul, Lee Dongwook, Jung woo sung.

First two are just very obvious. Like I said Gong Yoo, for a gay person may be more clockable and he pulls a convincing straight image in general. Sandeul is someone who you may not think he is but if you stop and think it becomes clear. LJJ I said it before. Kang Haneul has that aura that a gay theater kid has, even tho he is not as obvious with it (he does ping though). LDW reminds me of my gay uncle in the sense that he has that energy of single boojie gay. JWS is stereotypical bi.

If anyone has any other contenders feel free to post about it lol
Ehh...in general I think there's a few straight guys who want to keep playing around with women. But yes after 35 the "WHEN R U GETTING MARRIED?!?!?!?!!!1!!!" shit starts up. And then if u aren't going out publicly with someone ppl start to talk about u being gay.

With woo sung if he is then he's unfortunately the "all bi ppl r cheaters" stereotype.🙁
 
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Tw for mention of self exit.

Why Are We Ignoring the Disturbing Allegations Against ‘Squid Game’ Star Lee Jung-jae?



(This article has unfortunately been pay walled. His namu wiki talks about the duis and outing.




There's also this article that includes the assaults:


Squid Game actor Lee Jung-jae's criminal record and homophobic comments resurface on the internet



(These quotes are from the Daily Beast article.)


In 1999, Lee was detained by Gangnam Police for driving under the influence and causing a collision with another driver, a 23-year-old woman. His blood alcohol content was 0.22 percent (in South Korea, the limit is 0.05 percent). Lee refuted the charge, claiming his manager was driving. Three years later, he was charged with the same offense.

That same year, in 1999, he and a friend drunkenly attacked another man and were charged with assault. He was charged with assault again the following year after he allegedly dragged a 22-year-old woman from a nightclub in Busan and kicked her, causing injuries that required two weeks of recovery in the hospital.

(The dragging her out part really sounds like he was trying to take her to another location against her will and when she fought back, he attacked her...
Clubs are hunting grounds where men spike women's drinks or take advantage of drunk women. Also in Korea men just randomly grab women outside of clubs or try to pull them in their cars to basically kidnap them, so these men can SA them.)




Fast-forward to 2013 where, in an interview with Vogue Korea, Lee appeared to out his late friend and prominent stylist, soon after he had left the physical plane. (This my wording fyi. He left this world of his own volition. )

Before he passed on, Lee claimed, “I said to [him], ‘You should stop being gay. Haven’t you been that way enough?’” He went on to describe Woo’s homosexuality as an “inconvenience.” The quotes were subsequently pulled from online versions of the interview.

(This is how I feel about people who aren't into Korean entertainment like us, that still engage with kdramas.)

It’s easy for Western audiences to forget all of this while watching Korean television, losing oneself in a culture about which so many of us know precious little. But if we’re going to engage with Korean TV (and we should, it’s incredible) we need to understand that what we’re seeing is a carefully constructed fabrication of what Korea should look like, where anything that could be regarded as a blemish is censored out of shows. And its stars are similarly insulated from ideas that run contrary to Korean ideals—for instance, that one of Korea’s biggest stars might not be as clean-cut as managers, assistants, and minders want him to appear.

I want people to fall in love with Korean TV—it’s a rewarding love affair—and welcome the success of its stars in a global market. But we also must understand that beneath ostensibly feel-good stories of men like Lee Jung-jae achieving global stardom, there can be just as much darkness as there is in places like Hollywood.

Additional source:



Squid Game' star Lee Jung Jae faces fraud accusations




The 52-year-old actor is under investigation by the Gangnam Police in Seoul following a complaint filed in June, according to The Chosun Daily.

The complaint, lodged by Kim Dong Rae, CEO of the Kosdaq-listed drama studio RaemongRaein, accuses Lee and Park In Kyu, the former CEO of WYSIWYG Studios, of fraud under the Specific Economic Crimes Act.

According to Kim, Lee and Park misled him by claiming that their involvement as major shareholders would significantly boost RaemongRaein’s growth, prompting him to transfer his shares.

However, after obtaining the shares, Lee and Park allegedly tried to exclude Kim from the company’s management. Kim further alleged that, despite agreeing to jointly manage the company, Lee and Park did not honor this commitment.

Instead, they reportedly used 20 billion won (approximately US$14.5 million) of RaemongRaein’s funds to acquire another listed company, Chorokbaem Media, which had its trading suspended.

Kim argued that this acquisition took precedence over RaemongRaein’s growth.

In response, Lee Jung Jae has filed a countersuit against Kim, accusing him of making false allegations and fraud. Lee’s legal team argues that the contract in question clearly indicated a transfer of management rights, countering Kim’s claims.
The Gangnam Police have announced plans to conduct formal interviews with Lee Jung Jae and Park In Kyu regarding the allegations. The case has attracted significant public attention due to Lee’s high profile in the entertainment industry.




Source of this pic:

Everything The Public Found About BLACKPINK Jennie’s Alleged Father


August 30th, 2024

Im Se Ryung is known as the ex-wife of Samsung heir Lee Jae Yong. She is currently dating actor Lee Jung Jae.

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Western journalists have written a lot of articles about the dark side of K-Pop, but arguably the film and television side of the Korean entertainment industry is worse because actors are highly respected by the Korean general population and the top stars frequently appear in ads for big companies, so when a scandal happens their agency has a lot more motivation to cover it up and make it go away.


In particular, I think that Lee Jung-jae is trying to make it in the West and act in shows created by western streaming companies because they're less likely to know about his past.


Also, there is evidence that Netflix knew about Lee Jin wook's rape case when they cast him in season 2 of Squid Game. And considering how much they've bent the knee to the fascist government I don't think they care about those things.
 
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While he does ping face wise if Lee jung jae is homosexual then he's an example of "there r gay ppl and then there r men who have sex with men".

Someone who sees gay as a political identity wouldn't out their friend.
 

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Actor Lee Jung-jae mentioned his friendship with Jung Woo-sung


2024-06-17

Lee Jung-jae and Shin Dong-yeop. Photo by YouTube channel, "Cheerful Shin Dong-yup."

Actor Lee Jung-jae mentioned his friendship with Jung Woo-sung.

On the 17th, Lee Jung-jae appeared as a guest on the YouTube channel "Sad Brother Shin Dong-yeop."

Referring to the close relationship between Lee Jung-jae and Jung Woo-sung, Shin Dong-yeop said, "Are you two too close? In the past, when the two went out for wine, I thought, "It's okay to have a handsome gay couple because our country is also an advanced country."

In response, Lee Jung-jae said, "They were a little close," and added, "I have a deep relationship with Woosung." Woosung is the only one who knows it as a work and stays for a long time. It is a great help to be treated sincerely by the person near you," he boasted of his unusual friendship.


Jung Woo Sung Involved in Gay Rumors With Lee Jung Jae for THIS Hilarious Reason


Nov 17, 2023

In the recent episode of Shin Dong Yeop's "Zzanbro," which aired on November 16, he welcomed prominent stars Jung Woo Sung and Hwang Jung Min, two of the legendary actors in their generation.

During the show, host and comedian, Shin Dong Yeop asked Jung Woo Sung about the milestones he achieved for being in the acting industry for more than a decade and his close ties with award-winning actor Lee Jung Jae.

Before he even answered, the assistant host, Jung Ho Chul, recalled:

"I remember Jung Woo Sung receiving the director's award for Lee Jung Jae at the premiere of the Blue Dragon Film Awards."

He added that despite being friends for a long time, Jung Woo Sung and Lee Jung Jae still use honorifics to each other. Jung Ho Chul saw it during the awards night as Jung Woo Sung called the "Squid Game" actor while accepting his award on stage.

Shin Dong Yeop butts in and gets curious if they only do it in front of the cameras for formality.

To clarify, Jung Woo Sung answered:

"Mostly, we use honorifics when talking to each other and we also use honorifics to text each other. We don't have expectations for each other and only respect each other."

He explained the number one secret to keeping their 25 years of friendship.

Jung Woo Sung also revealed for the first time the reason why he and Lee Jung Jae were involved in gay rumors before.

"If we drink together for five hours, the conversation would be less than 10 minutes. We drink and look at each other and only say 'Shall we have another drink?'"

Shin Dong Yeop smiled and said:

"That's why you got such rumors."

To recall, the two were dubbed as Cheongdam couple because of their closeness, and issues of a gay relationship between them circulated. Lee Jung Jae explained himself about this during his appearance in the travel variety show "Healing Camp" in 2013 Jung Woo Sung is just a close friend who understands what he thinks even without saying a word.

Meanwhile, the two have been friends for more than two decades and already worked a couple of times on different projects.

In fact, they even co-partner in establishing an agency called Artist Company, in which they also handle artists who are pursuing a career in acting.

Also I think Shin Dong Yeop is gay but also a creep because he has a history of saying creepy shit to taemin when he was underage.
 
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Tw for grooming.

The Most Shocking Celebrity Dating Scandal Korea Has Ever Witnessed


The story began when Sports Khan broke news of actress Lee Ji Ah and actor Jung Woo Sung‘s relationship on March 11, 2011.

On March 20, 2011, Jung Woo Sung confirmed their relationship by writing a heartfelt message to his fan site.

“Hello This is Jung Woo Sung.

I have a new friend who I started dating after filming a drama together.” — Jung Woo Sung

Fans congratulated the power couple and everything seemed to be going well for the beautiful couple. But then, suddenly.. something happened that turned everything upside down.

Multiple news sites reported that Lee Ji Ah was in the middle of a lawsuit over alimony and an asset division with a secret ex-husband. The secret husband was none other than Seo Taiji, the legendary rock and pop musician who is credited in creating K-Pop as a genre.

The whole nation was shocked to hear that Lee Ji Ah and Seo Taiji were once married, as there was no link connecting the two prior to the news release.

In 1993, Lee Ji Ah was studying abroad in the States when she met Seo Taiji through an acquaintance at a concert in LA.

(SHE WAS 15 YEARS OLD WHEN THEY MET. HE WAS 21.
Yg and him are birds of feather.

Both STJ and YHS are legit groomers and met/got with their first wives as minors. Lee Jiah and SWIT member Lee Eunjoo respectively. Jiah divorced STJ after a messy lawsuit where it all came out, but Eunjoo had to marry him after he got her pregnant.

Also Lee Juno went to prison for assault and Taiji and Hyunsuk/YG bailed him out.)

The two fell in love 🤮
and began a long-distance relationship (long distance is the way a lot of ppl are groomed)
while Seo Taiji flew back and forth from Korea, where he continued to promote with his group, Seo Taiji and Boys.

In 1996, Seo Taiji announced his retirement from the industry and flew to the States, where he married Lee Ji Ah a year later in Las Vegas. They were married for 9 years.

She was 19. He was 25. (He literally waited for her to turn legal.)

They were able to keep their marriage a secret for almost a decade because of Seo Taiji’s famous personality of keeping his private life absolutely hidden away from the public.

In 2006, Lee Ji Ah filed for a divorce and Seo Taiji returned back to South Korea. The divorce was finalized in the same year.

Their shocking past was leaked to the public when Lee Ji Ah filed a 5.5 billion won ($5.1 million USD) lawsuit against Seo Taiji for alimony and division assets in 2011. She also revealed in her lawsuit that she suffered psychologically because of Seo Taiji’s heavily guarded life.

The lawsuits became messy over the following months after it became public as they each contested the others’ claims. Lee Ji Ah and Seo Taiji finally reached a settlement in July 2011.

The netizens were surprised that Lee Ji Ah had kept a secret for so long and began questioning if she was able to land such accredited roles only because of her contact with Seo Taiji.

Lee Ji Ah’s rising fame came to an abrupt halt as she was pulled from various endorsements and halted all activities for the time being.

Around the same time when the scandal was revealed to the public, Key East Entertainment announced that Jung Woo Sung and Lee Ji Ah had broken up.

For years, Jung Woo Sung and Lee Ji Ah remained silent about the breakup. He finally broke his silence in December 2012 when he was questioned about the breakup on MBC’s Knee Drop Guru.


He revealed that he actually knew about Lee Ji Ah’s previous marriage shortly before the report came out. He explained that Lee Ji Ah confessed everything during their date in France.

He had only kept silent after the scandal because he thought it was the most courteous and considerate thing he could do for Lee Ji Ah. He revealed that he has no hard feelings towards her and was empathetic towards her and the hardships she faced.

Two years after Jung Sung Woo’s TV appearance, Lee Ji Ah appeared on SBS’s Healing Camp to tell her side of the story. She confirmed that all of the rumors about their marriage were true.

She went into detail about how she felt while being married to Seo Taiji, who preferred to live secludedly, and she also clarified the rumors that she only became a top actress thanks to nepotism.

She explained that Seo Taiji’s former manager was a brother of actor Bae Yong Joon, which gave her the opportunity to audition for her breakout debut in MBC’s The Legend.

She finally concluded her story by expressing her sorrow and regrets about her relationship with Jung Woo Sung. She wished him all the luck in the future.

Seo Taiji has gone on to farther promote as a musician and is currently happily married with a child. Jung Woo Sung continues to star in some of the hottest blockbusters like “The King”, and Lee Ji Ah has slowly made her way back into acting through drama and film.

Lee Jung Jae: "I Reget Not Being There for Jung Woo Sung and Lee Ji Ah During Their Scandal"


Feb 19, 2013

Lee Jung Jae talked about his opinions regarding many alleged rumors about Jung Woo Sung and Lee Ji Ah. Recently, many tabloid sources have been reporting on several stories regarding the ex-celebrity couple Jung Woo Sung and Lee Ji Ah, from rekindling their relationship to pregnancy and marriage rumors.

Lee Jung Jae commented on these rumors, “They are not true. I wish those who talk about other people’s personal lives so easily would grow up and be mature.”

Lee Jung Jae explained himself, “I didn’t mention a thing about this before, but I did tell Jung Woo Sung that I want him to take some kind of action in response to all these rumors. He talked about it so honestly and earnestly on MBC ‘Knee-Slap Guru‘ and yet, people interpret his words negatively and produce more hearsay. I hated that. To be frank, I wasn’t really impressed with the fact that I was talking about someone else’s important issue. However, I thought it wasn’t right for Jung Woo Sung, or for this society to just let it happen like that, so I talked about it on air.”


He commented, “They broke up because there were news articles that just made them look like they are not supposed to be with each other. Realistically, there was nothing wrong. But so many people made it seem like it would be a complete insult on morality for them to get back together.”

He continued, “At the time, even I thought that they shouldn’t be together, but now when I look back at it, I think they should’ve gotten back together. I regret it. I should’ve been their for my friend. Instead, I was just another person around them. All I had to do was just help them through this. Lee Ji Ah had to hide her past and Jung Woo Sung tried to explain that to the public on TV. But everything was distorted in the end.”

It's so fucking sad that her career was ruined when she was the victim.

 
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While I'm on this uncomfortable subject:

⚠️PSA FOR 2 BL WEBTOONS!⚠️

Business Performance

Korean bl webtoon.

Side character gets SAed by a coworker who was like stalking him not even 10 chapters in.

The Tyrant Prince's Last Promise.

Chinese bl webtoon.

Off page SA between the 2 male leads.

At least with the crackdown on bl in China it's unlikely it will get made into a cdrama.
 

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Same.

I mainly watch bls and cringey idol web shows.

I've liked stuff from playlist global.

I've recently gotten into watching super cringey short form cdramas like historical ones.

Or ones where a person from the modern day time travels back to the past or into a video game or a show or a webtoon that's historical.

Because then it can critique the genre.

question:

have you ever watched the cringe everyone in the group is in it boyband idol dramas from third Gen like Exo next door?

Also have you seen check in hanyang?

I decided to stop watching check in hanyang after the first episode because the mcs both watched their father and uncle exit as kids and even if you shoot it a certain way that's still traumatic for them.

Also now that I'm a mom of three cats anything with kids getting hurt/etc is a big nope for me. I stopped watching anything violent at the start of 2023 and really thought that show was going to be bl cross dressing shenanigans at a hotel from the summary.
I don't watch many dramas with idols because most of the time they are really bad
with the exo members I've seen 7 first kisses, rich man and the frog (this one is very dark), I was thinking about watching that drama with baekhyun (moon lovers) and kyungsoo (100 days my prince) but I'm still thinking
for movies 'broker' with IU is very sweet and Love in the big city is so nice too, became one of my favorites
also 'color me true' it's a japanese movie, so cute

what are your thoughts on lee je hoon? I've heard there are some rumors of him in korea

and I honestly can't see it with jung woo sung, after the scandal I realized he's just desperate for women
 

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Wasn't sure if I should bring up the late Jonghyun...

But yes. He was 1 of us.

@mimenet
Jonghyun spoke about these topics often and supported them. There's no reason to not acknowledge that now. I think many people are too anxious to talk about him, but not speaking about his impact and legacy is what will make him forgotten, and having lived through 2017 I surely would never want that to happen. I think more gossipy speculation about him (and other idols who have unfortunately left us) is in bad taste but I think we absolutely should discuss the things he openly stated and used his platform to support and normalize.

I understand that talking about him can be difficult emotionally, it often is for me even after all these years, but the truth is that he took a stand for these things when he was alive and there's no reason to pretend like he didn't.
 

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I don't watch many dramas with idols because most of the time they are really bad
with the exo members I've seen 7 first kisses, rich man and the frog (this one is very dark), I was thinking about watching that drama with baekhyun (moon lovers) and kyungsoo (100 days my prince) but I'm still thinking
for movies 'broker' with IU is very sweet and Love in the big city is so nice too, became one of my favorites
also 'color me true' it's a japanese movie, so cute

what are your thoughts on lee je hoon? I've heard there are some rumors of him in korea

and I honestly can't see it with jung woo sung, after the scandal I realized he's just desperate for women
See the post? Yes i can see it.

But them being really bad is what makes them really good!

I just love love love cringey shit!

I am mainly here for the plot and the idol.

Give me all of the overly done trope cliche bullshit. I love it!

Like please understand I am someone who likes stuff like troll 2 level of stupid.

I literally ended up watching the first episode of so I married the anti fan because I thought it was going to be so bad it's good and it turned out to just be utterly horrible triggering terribleness.

anyway!

I will have to look him up!

and agree. If I he is bi then obviously he has a preference for women since he was 3 timing 3 of them.
 

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Jonghyun spoke about these topics often and supported them. There's no reason to not acknowledge that now. I think many people are too anxious to talk about him, but not speaking about his impact and legacy is what will make him forgotten, and having lived through 2017 I surely would never want that to happen. I think more gossipy speculation about him (and other idols who have unfortunately left us) is in bad taste but I think we absolutely should discuss the things he openly stated and used his platform to support and normalize.

I understand that talking about him can be difficult emotionally, it often is for me even after all these years, but the truth is that he took a stand for these things when he was alive and there's no reason to pretend like he didn't.
Completely agree with everything u said.

I wasn't sure because the context of the conversation was sort of comparing answers. I'm also a new user like sg97 but I've been reading the thread since Feb 2023 and I would search the oh thread and spend hours reading it so it felt like I was grading someone. So it didn't seem totally appropriate?



Also...as someone who's....been there man. It's hard for me to talk about him. Especially after April 2023. I had to have my mom read the article. And then we got cat food to feed my cats plus the rest of the colony (they were living outside then) because at least the cats were alive and I could do something for them.

I wasn't in fandom back then so I saw a news blurb but didn't find out it was him until 2020. I was never a shawol but I had his song with Ziont and liked she is.

I often think about what he would think of the progress that's been made. Pride flags on stage. Trans ballroom dancers in a mv for a big 4 company. The health insurance law.

When I feel overwhelmed by how many things I have favorited and how much I have to post I think of him. And how important it is that his history fighting for the community is preserved as well as the history of other queer idols and allies.

This thread is probably the only history of queerness in kpop that will ever exist.

I don't think anyone will ever write a full history of kpop because they'll be afraid of armys harassing them. So someone writing about idols that haven't come out will probably never happen.

That's why I'm so thankful for the thread. And to you for moving it here.

I really can't express how much it's meant to me.🫂
 

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See the post? Yes i can see it.

But them being really bad is what makes them really good!

I just love love love cringey shit!

I am mainly here for the plot and the idol.

Give me all of the overly done trope cliche bullshit. I love it!

Like please understand I am someone who likes stuff like troll 2 level of stupid.

I literally ended up watching the first episode of so I married the anti fan because I thought it was going to be so bad it's good and it turned out to just be utterly horrible triggering terribleness.

anyway!

I will have to look him up!

and agree. If I he is bi then obviously he has a preference for women since he was 3 timing 3 of them.
looks like 'when life gives you tangerines' is very sweet and a bit sad, I'll start watching this weekend to see if I like
'so I married the anti fan' didn't interested me at all
'what comes after love' is a slow melodrama, don't know if you would enjoy it

and there's no one else I can think of right now
 

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looks like 'when life gives you tangerines' is very sweet and a bit sad, I'll start watching this weekend to see if I like
'so I married the anti fan' didn't interested me at all
'what comes after love' is a slow melodrama, don't know if you would enjoy it

and there's no one else I can think of right now
Hard pass on anything with park bo gum in it. My autistic brain will always just be like pbg=cult. I know it isn't his fault but that's just...how my mind works.

With so I married the anti fan it was the title that got me.

And yeah I don't mind slow burn if it's a short show but if it's straight and isn't weird hard pass.

Lately my tolerance for straight ppl is low if they aren't autistic/adhd/AuAdhd coded characters. I watched hold on my lady for the unintentional trans rep and stayed for the equally unintentional autistic and adhd rep. The main ship can be read as a autistic guy x adhd girl couple.
 

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I'm just glad a few people came here with me and more keep trickling in still :heartpar:
We've got a pretty good group.

Also thank you for not shutting me down about the autistic idols thing.

I really was expecting to have to write a whole essay defending myself and posting lots of articles and lists of celebs on the spectrum and to have to talk about how jim carrey has adhd but thinks autism is caused by vaccines.

😭😭😭😭😭

I'm still going to post some videos to explain more about being on the spectrum for ppl though.
 
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We've got a pretty good group.

Also thank you for not shutting me down about the autistic idols thing.

I really was expecting to have to write a whole essay defending myself and posting lots of articles and lists of celebs on the spectrum and to have to talk about how jim carrey has adhd but thinks autism is caused by vaccines.

😭😭😭😭😭

I'm still going to post some videos to explain more about being on the spectrum for ppl though.
I have adhd and I think there are lots of idols who are neurodivergent lol if anyone was going to have a problem with you talking about that it sure wouldn't be me. Talking about the queer stuff is already a sort of social "taboo" so neurodiversity doesn't seem like that much more of a leap.

I've said it before but I'll say it again to any lurkers who may be reading this please come join us, even if you want to just silent react to posts. I really doubt anyone will jump at your throat here and the site on the whole are very very nice and calm and welcoming.
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I have adhd and I think there are lots of idols who are neurodivergent lol if anyone was going to have a problem with you talking about that it sure wouldn't be me. Talking about the queer stuff is already a sort of social "taboo" so neurodiversity doesn't seem like that much more of a leap.

I've said it before but I'll say it again to any lurkers who may be reading this please come join us, even if you want to just silent react to posts. I really doubt anyone will jump at your throat here and the site on the whole are very very nice and calm and welcoming.
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Hand flapping as I scream into my phone in happiness!!!!!!!😁

I was going to ask if anybody else on here was also on the spectrum.

K-Pop is literally what an AI would make if you asked it to make the most neurodivergent genre of music.

I will die on the hill that lee soo man is autistic and that is why so many autistic/adhd/AuAdhd fans like K-Pop!

There's no way that you say yes to that many noise music songs if you're not on the spectrum.

The kwangya SMCU thing is totally a perfect example of "Hey guys, so I have this like really cool idea, but I have no idea how it ends."

Also stereotypical autistic major:


In the early 1980s, Lee decided to leave the entertainment world in order to pursue a career in computer engineering. He went abroad to work on a master's degree at California State University, Northridge.

Plus the large number of ND idols that sm has could have been lsm selecting ppl that remind him of himself. Also by 3rd gen you would have had nd ppl beginning to choose sm because they liked the noise music.
 
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Probably unpopular opinion, but I am very sure that Jungkook is neurodivergent. He stims a lot. Probably ADHD. I'm also neurodivergent, so I guess I relate lol
 
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Tw for grooming.

The Most Shocking Celebrity Dating Scandal Korea Has Ever Witnessed


The story began when Sports Khan broke news of actress Lee Ji Ah and actor Jung Woo Sung‘s relationship on March 11, 2011.

On March 20, 2011, Jung Woo Sung confirmed their relationship by writing a heartfelt message to his fan site.

“Hello This is Jung Woo Sung.

I have a new friend who I started dating after filming a drama together.” — Jung Woo Sung

Fans congratulated the power couple and everything seemed to be going well for the beautiful couple. But then, suddenly.. something happened that turned everything upside down.

Multiple news sites reported that Lee Ji Ah was in the middle of a lawsuit over alimony and an asset division with a secret ex-husband. The secret husband was none other than Seo Taiji, the legendary rock and pop musician who is credited in creating K-Pop as a genre.

The whole nation was shocked to hear that Lee Ji Ah and Seo Taiji were once married, as there was no link connecting the two prior to the news release.

In 1993, Lee Ji Ah was studying abroad in the States when she met Seo Taiji through an acquaintance at a concert in LA.

(SHE WAS 15 YEARS OLD WHEN THEY MET. HE WAS 21.
Yg and him are birds of feather.

Both STJ and YHS are legit groomers and met/got with their first wives as minors. Lee Jiah and SWIT member Lee Eunjoo respectively. Jiah divorced STJ after a messy lawsuit where it all came out, but Eunjoo had to marry him after he got her pregnant.

Also Lee Juno went to prison for assault and Taiji and Hyunsuk/YG bailed him out.)

The two fell in love 🤮
and began a long-distance relationship (long distance is the way a lot of ppl are groomed)
while Seo Taiji flew back and forth from Korea, where he continued to promote with his group, Seo Taiji and Boys.

In 1996, Seo Taiji announced his retirement from the industry and flew to the States, where he married Lee Ji Ah a year later in Las Vegas. They were married for 9 years.

She was 19. He was 25. (He literally waited for her to turn legal.)

They were able to keep their marriage a secret for almost a decade because of Seo Taiji’s famous personality of keeping his private life absolutely hidden away from the public.

In 2006, Lee Ji Ah filed for a divorce and Seo Taiji returned back to South Korea. The divorce was finalized in the same year.

Their shocking past was leaked to the public when Lee Ji Ah filed a 5.5 billion won ($5.1 million USD) lawsuit against Seo Taiji for alimony and division assets in 2011. She also revealed in her lawsuit that she suffered psychologically because of Seo Taiji’s heavily guarded life.

The lawsuits became messy over the following months after it became public as they each contested the others’ claims. Lee Ji Ah and Seo Taiji finally reached a settlement in July 2011.

The netizens were surprised that Lee Ji Ah had kept a secret for so long and began questioning if she was able to land such accredited roles only because of her contact with Seo Taiji.

Lee Ji Ah’s rising fame came to an abrupt halt as she was pulled from various endorsements and halted all activities for the time being.

Around the same time when the scandal was revealed to the public, Key East Entertainment announced that Jung Woo Sung and Lee Ji Ah had broken up.

For years, Jung Woo Sung and Lee Ji Ah remained silent about the breakup. He finally broke his silence in December 2012 when he was questioned about the breakup on MBC’s Knee Drop Guru.


He revealed that he actually knew about Lee Ji Ah’s previous marriage shortly before the report came out. He explained that Lee Ji Ah confessed everything during their date in France.

He had only kept silent after the scandal because he thought it was the most courteous and considerate thing he could do for Lee Ji Ah. He revealed that he has no hard feelings towards her and was empathetic towards her and the hardships she faced.

Two years after Jung Sung Woo’s TV appearance, Lee Ji Ah appeared on SBS’s Healing Camp to tell her side of the story. She confirmed that all of the rumors about their marriage were true.

She went into detail about how she felt while being married to Seo Taiji, who preferred to live secludedly, and she also clarified the rumors that she only became a top actress thanks to nepotism.

She explained that Seo Taiji’s former manager was a brother of actor Bae Yong Joon, which gave her the opportunity to audition for her breakout debut in MBC’s The Legend.

She finally concluded her story by expressing her sorrow and regrets about her relationship with Jung Woo Sung. She wished him all the luck in the future.

Seo Taiji has gone on to farther promote as a musician and is currently happily married with a child. Jung Woo Sung continues to star in some of the hottest blockbusters like “The King”, and Lee Ji Ah has slowly made her way back into acting through drama and film.

Lee Jung Jae: "I Reget Not Being There for Jung Woo Sung and Lee Ji Ah During Their Scandal"


Feb 19, 2013

Lee Jung Jae talked about his opinions regarding many alleged rumors about Jung Woo Sung and Lee Ji Ah. Recently, many tabloid sources have been reporting on several stories regarding the ex-celebrity couple Jung Woo Sung and Lee Ji Ah, from rekindling their relationship to pregnancy and marriage rumors.

Lee Jung Jae commented on these rumors, “They are not true. I wish those who talk about other people’s personal lives so easily would grow up and be mature.”

Lee Jung Jae explained himself, “I didn’t mention a thing about this before, but I did tell Jung Woo Sung that I want him to take some kind of action in response to all these rumors. He talked about it so honestly and earnestly on MBC ‘Knee-Slap Guru‘ and yet, people interpret his words negatively and produce more hearsay. I hated that. To be frank, I wasn’t really impressed with the fact that I was talking about someone else’s important issue. However, I thought it wasn’t right for Jung Woo Sung, or for this society to just let it happen like that, so I talked about it on air.”


He commented, “They broke up because there were news articles that just made them look like they are not supposed to be with each other. Realistically, there was nothing wrong. But so many people made it seem like it would be a complete insult on morality for them to get back together.”

He continued, “At the time, even I thought that they shouldn’t be together, but now when I look back at it, I think they should’ve gotten back together. I regret it. I should’ve been their for my friend. Instead, I was just another person around them. All I had to do was just help them through this. Lee Ji Ah had to hide her past and Jung Woo Sung tried to explain that to the public on TV. But everything was distorted in the end.”

It's so fucking sad that her career was ruined when she was the victim.
Not to be that person, I have been enjoying your posts, but can we keep discussions linked to the overall subject. There are plenty of pages on this site that some of your posts would connect better to. This post for example could have gone somewhere else.

That being said I am happy for a more active community so welcome.
 
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