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[Stan BiSH]

carry loose tour final

 

[Stan BiSH]

Mameshiba no taigun spotify is up


interview (mostly about how they decided to audition for MONSTER IDOL)

 

[Stan BiSH]

GANG PARADE released their single Namida no Stage / FiX YOUR TEETH



but no mv yet


gang parade on playlist





gang parade reacting to their choreographs






dockson for ramenwalker






this is old but still fun

gang parade x empire mystery box

 

[Stan BiSH]

Based on the info you found about Aya's Photobooks, I would say that:

- sprinke is "cute" and bright (the pics with more color)
- bouquet is "mature" and dark (the monochrome pics that feature mainly black and white)

yeah, i think is most likely like that


and she is going to do a release event the 11th so i hope she drops more info

All I want to know is, did Muropanako pee herself.

After all, even if I am reborn as someone other than me, I feel like I will live with the same remarks, actions, rebellion, laziness, anger, sorrow, piss

every-single-tweet

but seriously, i want muropanako to start a youtube channel, she is pretty funny and witty so is a waste that she doesn't get a chance to show her talent,

i miss her jokes

I went out on Twitter and found a bunch of posts speculating what Kuro-chan's role is and what the 2nd single is going to be. I was hoping to find some threads on 2ch/5ch, but it's been a long time since I've gone there and I'm having trouble navigating it. I'll try again another time.

dunno what to think but kuro-chan keeps sending signals

I want you to support Mameshiba more!

 

[Sasori]

I still can't believe Kamiya's graduating I took it for granted that she would always be around. I hope she's still involved with WACK in some way. Maybe she'll become a producer or work with the trainees.

carry loose tour final

Did they change their color scheme form white & black to white & red?

yeah, i think is most likely like that


and she is going to do a release event the 11th so i hope she drops more info








every-single-tweet

but seriously, i want muropanako to start a youtube channel, she is pretty funny and witty so is a waste that she doesn't get a chance to show her talent,

i miss her jokes




dunno what to think but kuro-chan keeps sending signals

Yeah, looking forward to more info from Aya. Then I'll know which one to buy!

The legend of Muropanako grows! She really should start a YouTube channel. It's incredibly easy and you can make a little bit of money. I'm sure she'd easily get a few thousand views per video.

I figured out how to get into 2ch again. It was just a stupid "I am not a robot" captcha, lol. They didn't used to have that on the site, so they must be getting cyber attacks. I didn't find much on twitter, so I'll see if fans on 2ch can shed some light on Mameshiba's 2nd single. There's a couple other message boards, but they're a bit too complicated. Too many subcategories and the sites aren't necessarily secure

 

[Idol Killer]

I still can't believe Kamiya's graduating I took it for granted that she would always be around. I hope she's still involved with WACK in some way. Maybe she'll become a producer or work with the trainees.

I hate the graduating system, it always makes me wonder "how long before x or x idol get replaced?" It's something that I always make me have step back on every groups that I follow.

 

[Stan BiSH]

I still can't believe Kamiya's graduating I took it for granted that she would always be around. I hope she's still involved with WACK in some way. Maybe she'll become a producer or work with the trainees.



Did they change their color scheme form white & black to white & red?



Yeah, looking forward to more info from Aya. Then I'll know which one to buy!

The legend of Muropanako grows! She really should start a YouTube channel. It's incredibly easy and you can make a little bit of money. I'm sure she'd easily get a few thousand views per video.

if i recall saki wrote a blog post about why she was leaving but i can't find it,

but natalie.mu put an article about it

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natalie.mu

google translation

kamiya announces comments on leaving the group. Regarding her activities at Gangparade, which started with her own thoughts after the dissolution of the first BiS in 2014, she reflects on her appreciation to fans that her dream was fulfilled little by little, despite the lack of smooth sailing. Kamiya transferred to Bis for the second term of rental trade for about 11 months from April 2017 to March 2018. After returning to Gampare, she said, "Every time I went, I couldn't pull GANG PARADE with the same energy as before. worried. "she said. As a result, Kamiya said, "I thought I should past baton to the juniors and decided to withdraw," she said.

and about carry loose, they just got the red uniforms for this tour,




they are fine but the first ones looked better
at least now i don't have to wonder if they use the same uniforms every day

I figured out how to get into 2ch again. It was just a stupid "I am not a robot" captcha, lol. They didn't used to have that on the site, so they must be getting cyber attacks. I didn't find much on twitter, so I'll see if fans on 2ch can shed some light on Mameshiba's 2nd single. There's a couple other message boards, but they're a bit too complicated. Too many subcategories and the sites aren't necessarily secure

are wack popular in 2ch?

i wonder because of the whole "alternative idol" thing

 

[Stan BiSH]

I hate the graduating system, it always makes me wonder "how long before x or x idol get replaced?" It's something that I always make me have step back on every groups that I follow.

hey, you are back


saki is my favorite member of gp so the news of her graduation sucks,
i think that at least in her case it feels like she accomplished everything she set to do and this is just her quitting in her own terms
at least is not gonna be until may

 

[Sasori]

I hate the graduating system, it always makes me wonder "how long before x or x idol get replaced?" It's something that I always make me have step back on every groups that I follow.

The graduation system is par for the course when it comes to Japanese Idols, so unfortunately it's something we have to learn to live with. However, it's allot harder when it comes to WACK. Too many members have left because they were pushed to far and reached their breaking point. In any other company, they'd probably have stayed much longer.

if i recall saki wrote a blog post about why she was leaving but i can't find it,

but natalie.mu put an article about it

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natalie.mu

google translation

kamiya announces comments on leaving the group. Regarding her activities at Gangparade, which started with her own thoughts after the dissolution of the first BiS in 2014, she reflects on her appreciation to fans that her dream was fulfilled little by little, despite the lack of smooth sailing. Kamiya transferred to Bis for the second term of rental trade for about 11 months from April 2017 to March 2018. After returning to Gampare, she said, "Every time I went, I couldn't pull GANG PARADE with the same energy as before. worried. "she said. As a result, Kamiya said, "I thought I should past baton to the juniors and decided to withdraw," she said.

and about carry loose, they just got the red uniforms for this tour,




they are fine but the first ones looked better
at least now i don't have to wonder if they use the same uniforms every day


are wack popular in 2ch?

i wonder because of the whole "alternative idol" thing

I can see where Kamiya's coming from. She had moved on from BiS, so when the rental trade happened, it probably reopened some old wounds. She had to get back into the mindset that's required to survive being a member of BiS. When the trade was extended beyond the 6 month period, she and Aya weren't sure if they'd ever return to their regular groups.

Then, at one of the WACK Fests, Watanabe suddenly announced the trade would be ending. Kamiya was visibly pissed because he said nothing about it the previous night. He had come to both her and Aya and simply asked what they thought about the trade ending, but kept silent about the announcement. By that point, Kamiya had become invested in BiS again, so now she had to say goodbye for the second time. It can be hard to find your groove again, and she finally realized it wasn't the same in Gang Parade as before. At least she got to join them for their major debut.

Because of the design of Carry Loose's costumes, the red and white makes them look like clowns, lol. The black and white ones do look better, but that color scheme is a bit over done in WACK. I hope they get a look that helps them stand out.

The WACK groups do have a presence on 2ch, but fans usually make a consolidated thread for all the groups. I remembered I have some old links to WACK threads from the message boards that favor Indie and Alternative Idols, so that should be a good entry point to start searching.

 

[Idol Killer]

The graduation system is par for the course when it comes to Japanese Idols, so unfortunately it's something we have to learn to live with. However, it's allot harder when it comes to WACK. Too many members have left because they were pushed to far and reached their breaking point. In any other company, they'd probably have stayed much longer.

Yeah, I just never expect my favorites to graduate or simply forget that they can and it ends up being "stab in the heart" thing when that occurs.

hey, you are back


saki is my favorite member of gp so the news of her graduation sucks,
i think that at least in her case it feels like she accomplished everything she set to do and this is just her quitting in her own terms
at least is not gonna be until may

Yes, I got back to the forum but more importantly, I missed too much news on WACK.

I really like Kamiya so, I can share the same pain that you feel during these graduations.

 

[Stan BiSH]

CARRY LOOSE「にんげん」

 

[Stan BiSH]

natalie.mu did a interview with a representative from each group

watanabe has been complaining about the lack of audition applications

WACK joint audition closes today. ] The annual public training camp audition. Deadline today. In fact, there is almost no application and I am in trouble. We are still looking forward to your application for future WACK artists. Details →

actually he has been complaining since the past few weeks, i wonder if is real or just for attention

 

[Stan BiSH]

all wack girls wrote a message to fans

(full size pictures here)

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natalie.mu

special mention to these masterpieces

 

[Stan BiSH]

The graduation system is par for the course when it comes to Japanese Idols, so unfortunately it's something we have to learn to live with. However, it's allot harder when it comes to WACK. Too many members have left because they were pushed to far and reached their breaking point. In any other company, they'd probably have stayed much longer.



I can see where Kamiya's coming from. She had moved on from BiS, so when the rental trade happened, it probably reopened some old wounds. She had to get back into the mindset that's required to survive being a member of BiS. When the trade was extended beyond the 6 month period, she and Aya weren't sure if they'd ever return to their regular groups.

Then, at one of the WACK Fests, Watanabe suddenly announced the trade would be ending. Kamiya was visibly pissed because he said nothing about it the previous night. He had come to both her and Aya and simply asked what they thought about the trade ending, but kept silent about the announcement. By that point, Kamiya had become invested in BiS again, so now she had to say goodbye for the second time. It can be hard to find your groove again, and she finally realized it wasn't the same in Gang Parade as before. At least she got to join them for their major debut.

Because of the design of Carry Loose's costumes, the red and white makes them look like clowns, lol. The black and white ones do look better, but that color scheme is a bit over done in WACK. I hope they get a look that helps them stand out.

The WACK groups do have a presence on 2ch, but fans usually make a consolidated thread for all the groups. I remembered I have some old links to WACK threads from the message boards that favor Indie and Alternative Idols, so that should be a good entry point to start searching.

first kika and now saki, wack is gonna feel a little less crazy now


and with her out, bish original members are now the seniors right? weird


btw i found a wack fan site that archives 2ch threads of the groups

WACKまとめ・D｜BiSH,BiS,GANG PARADE,EMPiRE,豆柴の大群に詳しくなれる｜WACKまとめ・D

WACK所属アーティストの最新情報・画像・動画を随時発信。BiSH、BiS、GANG PARADE、EMPiRE、CARRY LOOSE、豆柴の大群、WAgg、BILLIE IDLE®、

asahijp.site

 

[Stan BiSH]

"Orchestra" just passed 10m views, is bish 2nd video to do so (and wack's third)

 

[Sasori]

natalie.mu did a interview with a representative from each group

watanabe has been complaining about the lack of audition applications





actually he has been complaining since the past few weeks, i wonder if is real or just for attention

It's weird seeing Mameshiba mixing with the other WACK groups. They still feel their own separate thing. It will take some time to get used to it.

The applicants must have finally smartened up about the auditions, lol. Considering that there's other audition later in the year, it's kind of pointless to go to the Training Camp. I'd rather Watanabe retool it so it's something that's actually fun. Maybe have all the WACK compete in games for special privileges, solo singles, or photobooks.

first kika and now saki, wack is gonna feel a little less crazy now


and with her out, bish original members are now the seniors right? weird


btw i found a wack fan site that archives 2ch threads of the groups

WACKまとめ・D｜BiSH,BiS,GANG PARADE,EMPiRE,豆柴の大群に詳しくなれる｜WACKまとめ・D

WACK所属アーティストの最新情報・画像・動画を随時発信。BiSH、BiS、GANG PARADE、EMPiRE、CARRY LOOSE、豆柴の大群、WAgg、BILLIE IDLE®、

asahijp.site

Yes, Chicchi, Aina, and Momoko are now the senior members in WACK. The beat out Gang Parade's Yamamachi and Yumeno by two months!

Yeah, I've used that fan site as well. It's a good resource, but not quite a true archive like other sites. Sometimes they post selected comments from 2ch threads, but other posts vary between member photo appreciation, twitter posts, etc. It used to be unreliable as the site was constantly going down, but it's been pretty stable over the past year.

 

[Idol Killer]

 

[Sasori]

Here are some comments I translated from the most recent Mameshiba thread I could find on 2ch. These threads get pretty massive, so I just scanned through the first 100 or so posts (They cap out at 1k posts and then start a new one). It still gives us a good idea of what fans are talking about. This is the 11th Mameshiba thread:

*Quick note: Nao and Miyuki seem to be favorites among fans.

13 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/21(火) 21:08:00.93 ID:JSY83ucla.net[1/2]

Because there aren't many singing programs, Idols can be difficult to sell.
I wonder if Utaban or heyhey will be revived.

(*Utaban was a music show that ran from 1996 - 2010. It was hosted by the comedy due Tunnels which consisted of Ishibashi Takaaki, a comedian, actor and singer, and Nakai Masahiro, the leader of SMAP. Morning Musume were frequent guests. heyhey must be "Hey! Hey! Hey! Music Champ". It was another music related show hosted by Downtown that ran from 1994 - 2012)

52 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 06:17:10.00 ID:MlX8RxTpa.net[2/4]

Since Mameshiba became a WACK style group, their popularity has dropped, so I haven't read Nao or Kaede's (twitter posts).
I'll start paying attention again when they're more active/when it gets exciting.

53 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 06:18:00.89 ID:MlX8RxTpa.net[3/4]

Nao is popular with adults and women in the general public,
Currently, WACK style (groups) are at a disadvantage because they only appeal to Kimo-ota.

(*Kimo-ota is short for Kimoi Otaku, which is worse than a regular Otaku. It means you hold them in contempt and consider them to have a disgusting character, appearance, and preferences/tastes)

54 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 06:19:20.98 ID:MlX8RxTpa.net[4/4]

If Nao and Kaede became models for a Fashion Magazine, they could develop female fans separately and opportunities as a Talento could open up.

57 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 07:54:28.93 ID:LP2AK6pK0.net

Why did they change their costumes?
I wish they had kept the ones they had on the last episode of the TV show.

Now they're dressed like Yankees and normal fans have disappeared.
What will they do?

61 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 08:16:25.48 ID:L9xdRIjZ0.net[1/7]

I'm grateful that I can easily buy a ticket.
If their popularity really explodes like BiSH, you'll have to line up at 5:00 or you won't be able to get in to the privalege party.

(*I used "privilege party" because it the closest translation I could get. It refers to several things: mini lives, release events, autograph sessions, etc. You usually buy a CD at the venue to get a ticket)

62 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 08:19:20.46 ID:kHv7kYAr0.net

Before the costume change, there was a sense that they could aim for the Kohaku.

(*Kohaku Uta Gassen, NHK's annual New Year's special where Red and White teams compete in a singing competition)

65 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 08:58:22.13 ID:ZrzpSid/a.net[3/13]
>>57

I don't think it's because of the costume change.
They've just been forgotten by television viewers.

67 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 09:06:10.27 ID:CglFjqfa0.net[1/2]

Kuro-chan likes cute Idols, but Watanabe isn't interested in them.
Their polar opposites in what type of Idols they prefer.

68 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 09:11:01.88 ID:ftPcKd/ma.net
>>65

Really, I don't even see Mameshiba's name anywhere.
The people watching TV aren't really out in society.

(*I went with a literal translation for the second sentence, but I think they just mean that fewer people are watching TV)

69 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ (ｱｳｱｳｳｰ Sa4b-OCo9)：2020/01/22(水) 09:36:25 ID:tcxEBSWVa.net[2/3]
>>65

These are my feelings right now.
Songs are the most important.
At the moment, their songs are being made by Idol loving amateurs like Kuro-chan.
I'm sure he got help from a professional.
Even if they continued with Kuro-chan, fans would get bored with it,
and they won't sell enough albums to participate in the Kohaku or the Japan Record Awards.
Even when the 2nd single comes out, I think interest will drop in seconds. (*I take it he means if Kuro-chan continues as Producer)
When you think about Mameshiba's options, they need to do a song like BiSH.

70 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 477b-mfm/)：2020/01/22(水) 09:39:22 ID:CglFjqfa0.net[2/2]

If they want to make a major debut, I think it's necessary to add members who are good at singing.
Compared to other groups, their singing level is low.
Dancing is unavoidable.

71 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ (ｱｳｱｳｳｰ Sa4b-OCo9)：2020/01/22(水) 09:58:17 ID:tcxEBSWVa.net[3/3]

Personally, I like the current lineup and hate the idea of adding more members.
Mameshiba has only just begun, so it's okay if they're not that good yet.
It's amazing how BiSH can scream while giving flashy performances, but when they formed they weren't that great.
I want these 5 members of Mameshiba to reach that level of skill.

73 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ (ｻｻｸｯﾃﾛﾚ Sp7b-dry8)：2020/01/22(水) 11:09:26 ID:Bq5Q7dcqp.net

It's impossible to keep these members in WACK.

75 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 12:21:07.89 ID:NyP7ARFHa.net

They're TV Idols.
People on the Internet don't know them.
Only people who watch TV are aware of them.

82 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 7f25-u2lK)：2020/01/22(水) 14:03:28 ID:eYokWJPH0.net

Their names after the name change are too lazy.
They already did it with BiSH, like Aina The End.
Are all the Idols working under this Producer named like this?

90 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 15:25:06.79 ID:UYH/NVCo0.net
>>69

Even if they go the BiSH route, stay away from EMPiRE.
They were definitely better going the cute route.

96 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 16:04:26.38 ID:BDwSqwz/a.net[6/33]
>>64

Whether it's a competition for a prize or not, it doesn't matter.

99 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 16:15:08.14 ID:4G1HCpMpp.net

Even if the the general public knows about them, the Japan Record Awards only care about Major Offices.

104 ：ファンクラブ会員番号７７４ ：2020/01/22(水) 16:26:45.85 ID:g8QuvAob0.net[2/4]

I don't think it's necessary to put Mameshiba with BiSH.
Watanabe has a narrow view as a Producer, so he can only makes similar groups.
The other groups are just rehashes of BiSH.
The same thing will happen to Mameshiba.

Source:

豆柴の大群 11匹目

 

[Stan BiSH]

Aina new goal is to play at the Tokyo Dome

Do you have any future prospects? as BiSH or as Aina.

Aina: I definitely want to stand at the Tokyo Dome. Also, personally, when I was featured with Genie High last year and let me participate in the FNS Song Festival, I thought that a band would be nice. From rehearsals! Moved back and forth with a very funny face, Koyabu-san put in Tsukkomi, and (Nakajima) Ickyu relieved me with "Let's have fun", Aragaki-san Shows me a cute smile. I think bands are so interesting. Well, Genie High was interesting, but I had never experienced that fun. I wanted to experience these things too. I want to collaborate with various people in the future. For the past five years, I have often asked to call in and work together, so next time I would like to call in.

they already sold the budokan (capacity 14k+) and yokohama arena (capacity 17k+), the tokyo dome has a capacity of 55k...

also she said she liked playing with a band, Aina x PEDRO soon?

 

[Stan BiSH]

min 6:37

which of them hit the locker?
whoever it was thanks for make me think that lingling got a concussion