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They dont count on BB as they are considered imports, same for SQKpops 1.4k group order. If thats what you mean.Didn't a USA based account fundraise around 10k for album? I think it is that
"Biggest Laughing Stocks" Momo stop it boo.
Aren't you the one that ran that Discord that Haru made and I dragged y'all and left?
Don't forget boo I can come back whenever I want he can easily undo the ban and I'll be back in there.
Or I can ask him to simply delete the damn cord since he's admin. He don't care for the cord anymore.
Lets keep it classy. Don't get clapped and look goofy after.
My Charts and information went the most viral more than anyone here and were more well known and spread.
Yet I am the laughing stock? Girl bye shut the hell up with that mess. Lmao.
There is no laughing stock of the fandom because the OH fandom is dead anyways. Like?
There is no one left, there is only what 10 ~ 20 Onces left that primarily are in the Discord. No one cares about you or me outside of that.
Are you going to talk shit in the Discord again? Don't make me have to walk back up in there for a second round.
I hope you weren't the racist Admin all up in my DM's acting cute either cause if you were I do got you blocked for a reason.
But now that I suspect you are, Blocked. Not going to waste my time with a back and forth over a sales thread.
Anyways
I know you got your feelings hurt.
But our digitals have been declining since Yes or Yes. Our digitals have been declining since in Japan since WMU.
The fact that it makes you that mad enough to start lashing out then it is what it is.
Fancy didn't flop but was a decline. Feel Special was a flop for TWICE standards. More and More was a flop for TWICE standards.
BUT More and More was an increase from Feel Special, I will admit that. But its till behind Fancy and hasn't touched 2018 songs.
I know you know nothing about Japan but TWICE's digitals have declined there too.
I am NOT saying TWICE is no longer the #1 Girl Group in Japan or Korea. They still are.
But they are at a point that is akin to 2014 Soshi, this is the same thing I experienced with them.
After 2011, their digitals in Japan and Korea dropped consecutively with each release.
NOW, I could be 100% wrong. Personally I feel like TWICE will show us their power if the next song is good.
That is simply it. I am not saying TWICE is doomed. They have a long career. I am just saying
Their power is waning and they need something good to boost them back up.
Aren't you the one that ran that Discord that Haru made and I dragged y'all and left?
Don't forget boo I can come back whenever I want he can easily undo the ban and I'll be back in there.
Or I can ask him to simply delete the damn cord since he's admin. He don't care for the cord anymore.
Lets keep it classy. Don't get clapped and look goofy after.
My Charts and information went the most viral more than anyone here and were more well known and spread.
Yet I am the laughing stock? Girl bye shut the hell up with that mess. Lmao.
There is no laughing stock of the fandom because the OH fandom is dead anyways. Like?
There is no one left, there is only what 10 ~ 20 Onces left that primarily are in the Discord. No one cares about you or me outside of that.
Are you going to talk shit in the Discord again? Don't make me have to walk back up in there for a second round.
I hope you weren't the racist Admin all up in my DM's acting cute either cause if you were I do got you blocked for a reason.
But now that I suspect you are, Blocked. Not going to waste my time with a back and forth over a sales thread.
Anyways
I know you got your feelings hurt.
But our digitals have been declining since Yes or Yes. Our digitals have been declining since in Japan since WMU.
The fact that it makes you that mad enough to start lashing out then it is what it is.
Fancy didn't flop but was a decline. Feel Special was a flop for TWICE standards. More and More was a flop for TWICE standards.
BUT More and More was an increase from Feel Special, I will admit that. But its till behind Fancy and hasn't touched 2018 songs.
I know you know nothing about Japan but TWICE's digitals have declined there too.
I am NOT saying TWICE is no longer the #1 Girl Group in Japan or Korea. They still are.
But they are at a point that is akin to 2014 Soshi, this is the same thing I experienced with them.
After 2011, their digitals in Japan and Korea dropped consecutively with each release.
NOW, I could be 100% wrong. Personally I feel like TWICE will show us their power if the next song is good.
That is simply it. I am not saying TWICE is doomed. They have a long career. I am just saying
Their power is waning and they need something good to boost them back up.
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Anyways, if anyone else wants to discuss with me I will be completely civil as long as you don't try making cute slick drags.
I am tired and have literally no time for that. I only post in this damn thread once each few months.
I am not here for drama. If you want that shit then take it to the DM's. This is a sales thread.
There is no reason for people to be fighting in here. Makes no damn sense.
I am tired and have literally no time for that. I only post in this damn thread once each few months.
I am not here for drama. If you want that shit then take it to the DM's. This is a sales thread.
There is no reason for people to be fighting in here. Makes no damn sense.
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NuguDidn't a USA based account fundraise around 10k for album? I think it is that
nope not 10k album. It was 1k or 10k usd i think and intended for streaming/digital purchase of the song and/or album.. That was why during the pursuit for hot100 chart, everyone in the twitter was encouraging to donate to that sponsor us twice accnt..
On the other hand, you have to spend at least 40 usd for the bundles in the US shop..
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StanI recognize this type of writing pattern. Seems like you are pretty famous, huh.Anyways, if anyone else wants to discuss with me I will be completely civil as long as you don't try making cute slick drags.
I am tired and have literally no time for that. I only post in this damn thread once each few months.
I am not here for drama. If you want that shit then take it to the DM's. This is a sales thread.
There is no reason for people to be fighting in here. Makes no damn sense.
Anyway, as I said, if you guys are gonna bitch then do something. Bitching with action is something worthy. Bitching without is wasting time. We will keep getting cheap production, nothing is gonna change if things go naturally with JYP.
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I ain't even in that discord tho and even I know you were kicked out-even a couple years back on OH you were known for mad ramblings, frequent infighting and wild rants. You're a pretty well known Once I'll give you that-but for all the wrong reasons."Biggest Laughing Stocks" Momo stop it boo.
Aren't you the one that ran that Discord that Haru made and I dragged y'all and left?
Don't forget boo I can come back whenever I want he can easily undo the ban and I'll be back in there.
Or I can ask him to simply delete the damn cord since he's admin. He don't care for the cord anymore.
Lets keep it classy. Don't get clapped and look goofy after.
My Charts and information went the most viral more than anyone here and were more well known and spread.
Yet I am the laughing stock? Girl bye shut the hell up with that mess. Lmao.
There is no laughing stock of the fandom because the OH fandom is dead anyways. Like?
There is no one left, there is only what 10 ~ 20 Onces left that primarily are in the Discord. No one cares about you or me outside of that.
Are you going to talk shit in the Discord again? Don't make me have to walk back up in there for a second round.
I hope you weren't the racist Admin all up in my DM's acting cute either cause if you were I do got you blocked for a reason.
But now that I suspect you are, Blocked. Not going to waste my time with a back and forth over a sales thread.
Anyways
I know you got your feelings hurt.
But our digitals have been declining since Yes or Yes. Our digitals have been declining since in Japan since WMU.
The fact that it makes you that mad enough to start lashing out then it is what it is.
Fancy didn't flop but was a decline. Feel Special was a flop for TWICE standards. More and More was a flop for TWICE standards.
BUT More and More was an increase from Feel Special, I will admit that. But its till behind Fancy and hasn't touched 2018 songs.
I know you know nothing about Japan but TWICE's digitals have declined there too.
I am NOT saying TWICE is no longer the #1 Girl Group in Japan or Korea. They still are.
But they are at a point that is akin to 2014 Soshi, this is the same thing I experienced with them.
After 2011, their digitals in Japan and Korea dropped consecutively with each release.
NOW, I could be 100% wrong. Personally I feel like TWICE will show us their power if the next song is good.
That is simply it. I am not saying TWICE is doomed. They have a long career. I am just saying
Their power is waning and they need something good to boost them back up.
Fyi the only Discord I'm part of is .TWICE. But you can hang on to all that crazy you've got going on and stop the noise as most of what you're saying ain't even true. You should know TWICE have been performing as good or better than ever in Japan for a Korean track with M&M so yeah.
I mean they are trying new things-even in Japan with F&T and Breakthrough so we are gonna see some growing pains...aint no need for your bag of ;the sky is falling' BS that you've been on for years now.
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Yes and unfortunately I believe Patrick Carney spoke on things like bundles before and if memory serves the vast majority of cash earned from those sales goes right into the companies pockets.nope not 10k album. It was 1k or 10k usd i think and intended for streaming/digital purchase of the song and/or album.. That was why during the pursuit for hot100 chart, everyone in the twitter was encouraging to donate to that sponsor us twice accnt..
On the other hand, you have to spend at least 40 usd for the bundles in the US shop..
The mark up must be huge 35-40 bucks for a 2 Dollar T-shirt and a digital album that cost 0 to produce...all said and done the company is prolly walking away with 90-95% profits.
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Personally do you think it was cheap? To me I think the video looked like it clearly had budget, the budget was just clearly not put to prupose. The issue wasn't expense or effort but creativity imho. I would agree that most Once should pressure JYPE to move from Niave for the next video, creatively they can't take TWICE's MV's any further and that's fine. When they needed different image they hired a different stylist, when they improved on their choreo they used new people in their team, when the bring out new music they work with a bunch of producers, writers and composers....but fukcing JYPE will never ever work with a new MV team. It's always Niave smfh. But everything else felt fine to me.I recognize this type of writing pattern. Seems like you are pretty famous, huh.
Anyway, as I said, if you guys are gonna bitch then do something. Bitching with action is something worthy. Bitching without is wasting time. We will keep getting cheap production, nothing is gonna change if things go naturally with JYP.
The album packaging is superb this time around imho. Really really solid. The b-sides are as good as I can remember, certainly building on the standard of Fancy You and Feel Special. The title track was just a bit of a miss, that happens sometimes...what can you do? TWICE keep saying they want to try new things or try to present a fresher or cooler image so it's likely they'll keep trying new sound each time. I'm not sure that's something we should be protesting.
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NuguYes and unfortunately I believe Patrick Carney spoke on things like bundles before and if memory serves the vast majority of cash earned from those sales goes right into the companies pockets.
The mark up must be huge 35-40 bucks for a 2 Dollar T-shirt and a digital album that cost 0 to produce...all said and done the company is prolly walking away with 90-95% profits.
The merch were kinda ugly and lacked creativity though.. Cmon give us something like Tzuyu's trashcan or that jeongyeon's hanger bundled with the album.. Girls will land within top 10 in bb 200 for sure

Speaking of bundles, I've checked BP's in their US shop and they were actually selling the physical album+digital format for 40 usd.. So expensive.. And they have way cuter hoodies and shirts..
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This was just posted about 20min ago. Music shop in Okinawa, I believe.
The yellow sign in the bottom left picture says that the product (More&More album) is out of stock. Looks like production backlogs from all the comebacks are still an issue. Either that, or it hasn't reached the more far-flung stores. Back catalog seems OK though.
Edit: TR and MS-Big outlets in Tokyo seem to have stock, so the issue is not nation-wide.
The yellow sign in the bottom left picture says that the product (More&More album) is out of stock. Looks like production backlogs from all the comebacks are still an issue. Either that, or it hasn't reached the more far-flung stores. Back catalog seems OK though.
Edit: TR and MS-Big outlets in Tokyo seem to have stock, so the issue is not nation-wide.
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aint no need for your bag of ;the sky is falling' BS that you've been on for years now.
Just say it for long enough, and it will be eventually true. And then you can give yourself a pat on your own back and yell "Told you so"

Stream "Strawberry".
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Article about gaon sales in the first half of 2020. (it goes from 29th December to 27th of last month)
Twice sold about 563k on gaon for More & More
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NuguOnly 13k increased since the 1st news of reaching 550k gaon sales 3 weeks ago. Looks like this album will only be able to hit 600k by end of the year.
Hopefully we can maintain or even surpassed this number in next cb~
Hopefully we can maintain or even surpassed this number in next cb~

Dreamer95
StanPersonally do you think it was cheap? To me I think the video looked like it clearly had budget, the budget was just clearly not put to prupose. The issue wasn't expense or effort but creativity imho. I would agree that most Once should pressure JYPE to move from Niave for the next video, creatively they can't take TWICE's MV's any further and that's fine. When they needed different image they hired a different stylist, when they improved on their choreo they used new people in their team, when the bring out new music they work with a bunch of producers, writers and composers....but fukcing JYPE will never ever work with a new MV team. It's always Niave smfh. But everything else felt fine to me.
The album packaging is superb this time around imho. Really really solid. The b-sides are as good as I can remember, certainly building on the standard of Fancy You and Feel Special. The title track was just a bit of a miss, that happens sometimes...what can you do? TWICE keep saying they want to try new things or try to present a fresher or cooler image so it's likely they'll keep trying new sound each time. I'm not sure that's something we should be protesting.
By cheap I don't necessarily mean that JYP didn't pay enough. I mean that MV looked cheap and it did. The CGI is very horrible. I've seen better CGI with smaller and obviously less budget groups.
Ok, so how do we pressure him to abandon niave? With the whole copyright controversy we have a good shot. But action is needed.
I don't think that's how it works.Only 13k increased since the 1st news of reaching 550k gaon sales 3 weeks ago. Looks like this album will only be able to hit 600k by end of the year.
Hopefully we can maintain or even surpassed this number in next cb~![]()
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Shame only 565k. I thought it will be atleast 600k but i think 600k at the end of year is secured. Slowly but surely wins the race guys
I wonder if next album out this year it can get more than 565k first month update.
btw, its great got7 now selling atleast 440k. jype really should give them distribution support..
i wonder now how much skz and itzy sell can they beat got7 combined?
150k itzy and 300k skz.
I wonder if next album out this year it can get more than 565k first month update.
btw, its great got7 now selling atleast 440k. jype really should give them distribution support..
i wonder now how much skz and itzy sell can they beat got7 combined?
150k itzy and 300k skz.
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♬ honey, im good ♬C'mon, how could 563K even be anything to feel disappointed over? In my realistic world, it's amazing if true lol To think we'd always thought Twice album sales would be plateauing around the high 300K and thought all the "scandals" would adversely affect the figures, but now they didn't only break 400K, but 500K. That's incredible, not even factoring in the fact that we're in the middle of a pandemic and there's Fanfare.
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not dissapointing but i expect more, since last time they are saying already shipped 550k. but yeah it was great. and thats without local distribution in western stores like amazon barnes etc too..C'mon, how could 563K even be anything to feel disappointed over? In my realistic world, it's amazing if true lol To think we'd always thought Twice album sales would be plateauing around the high 300K and thought all the "scandals" would adversely affect the figures, but now they didn't only break 400K, but 500K. That's incredible, not even factoring in the fact that we're in the middle of a pandemic and there's Fanfare.
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♬ honey, im good ♬not dissapointing but i expect more, since last time they are saying already shipped 550k. but yeah it was great. and thats without local distribution in western stores like amazon barnes etc too..
I think we need more realistic expectations then. Also, idk if this means anything or played a factor as I'm not that well-versed in sales and distribution, but I ordered from Choice Music (since they confirmed they'd be counted toward BB200) and only got confirmation yesterday that my albums finally are being shipped. Last month I got notice that they were having shipment restrictions due to the pandemic and hence, the delay. I know many US Onces pre-ordered from there too. Perhaps we'll see some increase next month. Either way, I'm pretty happy with what we got given the circumstances.
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Am I really reading disappointment here...I mean look at the competition-I didn't expect this to be close and it wasn't. I know some other groups sell well bu look at IZ number....it's just not even competitive in any way and yeah other groups might sell well but those groups have been saving and resorting to mass money collection since early Feb and I still am skeptical whether they will even touch TWICE at year end.
This is massive, a 5 yr old group just destroyed the GG record and did it with ease and an incoming Japan single. Blown away.
@Dreamer95 yeah I agree-Niave have an amazing ability to spend a lot of money and deliver tacky and cheap looking videos. K-Once have been going hard on JYPE this comeback, esp following the plagiarism scandal. I mean it's really pathetic that 1, not only are the folk at Niave not talented but 2, they are actively getting paid to steal ideas instead of creatively thinking...this theft has as well tarnished TWICE's rep at the end of the day so it's not even close to being acceptable. The fucking donkey's at JYPE dont want to hear it tho.
This is massive, a 5 yr old group just destroyed the GG record and did it with ease and an incoming Japan single. Blown away.
@Dreamer95 yeah I agree-Niave have an amazing ability to spend a lot of money and deliver tacky and cheap looking videos. K-Once have been going hard on JYPE this comeback, esp following the plagiarism scandal. I mean it's really pathetic that 1, not only are the folk at Niave not talented but 2, they are actively getting paid to steal ideas instead of creatively thinking...this theft has as well tarnished TWICE's rep at the end of the day so it's not even close to being acceptable. The fucking donkey's at JYPE dont want to hear it tho.
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Didn't see this posted anywhere-not really a chart but a recent regional survey taken in among 6,610 Elementary and Middle schoolers in Japan.
It's basically popularity of entertainers among students of that age. TWICE secured a really high ranking which surprised me.
Top 5 were
1, Hikakin. Huge YTer with like nearly 9m subs
2, Arashi
3, Ken Shimura. Popular variety comedian that recently passed away.
4, TWICE.
5, King & Prince.
Considering the only other 2 music acts making it in the top 5 are King & Prince who are really big right now and the legends Arashi I'd say this is a massive result for them.
It's basically popularity of entertainers among students of that age. TWICE secured a really high ranking which surprised me.

Top 5 were
1, Hikakin. Huge YTer with like nearly 9m subs
2, Arashi
3, Ken Shimura. Popular variety comedian that recently passed away.
4, TWICE.
5, King & Prince.
Considering the only other 2 music acts making it in the top 5 are King & Prince who are really big right now and the legends Arashi I'd say this is a massive result for them.
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