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Anon comment on this blog:

Donghae - straight but I think he has a Peter Pan Complex so he doesn't even care about relationships

Heechul - pansexual

From the owner of this blog:

For Bi, I think Donghae because of confirmed past relationships with women as well as robust interest in girls (hahaha) but on the other hand, certain looks and glances and expressions (etc) towards men as well.

On list for the group:

Donghae - … bisexual?

Heechul - pansexual

I have...an opinion on how heechul could be either straight or still be someone who likes women but queer but I have a feeling I'm going to get pushback.

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@fo_lia_ge i have more donghae tea but i want to finish this.

Okay so I got approval to post the tarot tea from sm maid.

And approval to post some Taehyun and Yeonjun tea.

This is all my Mingyu at the straight clubs receipts.

Ot4 97 line part 3: Mingyu

Netizens Defend SEVENTEEN’s S.COUPS And Mingyu For Going To A Club


September 10th, 2022

S.COUPS and Mingyu were recently spotted at a club during their North American tour.

The sighting was corroborated with another local on TikTok, who claimed that she had seen the boys enter as she was leaving.

After the sighting, a man called Jason stepped up to spill the beans on what had gone down at the club.

According to Jason, Mingyu had seen a Korean girl being twerked on by Jason. The Korean girl was Jason’s girlfriend. He later asked the girl for permission to smack Jason’s butt. They even bought the couple and their friends some drinks.

This is a tweet responding to someone saying to stop spreading a "rumor":

"A girl who was leaving as they were entering very clearly recognised Mingyu. The dude keeps saying Mingyu's name, he probably introduced himself. Most of us know Decades isn't a gay club, but you can calm down and stop acting like if he were gay it would be awful."

SEVENTEEN’s Mingyu Accusations Of Allegedly Asking For Girls To Be Brought To Him At The Club Go Viral

July 30th, 2024


A netizen exposed a series of text messages exchanged with a club MD. An MD is someone who deals with table bookings and VIPs.

The MD sent a video of Mingyu allegedly at his table.

(Btw this op is probably a saseang.)

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• OP: “He’s just f*cking looking at his phone a lot LOL.”

• OP: “It’s been a long time since he has his fringe down.”

• MD: “Ah, he purposely booked a table where people f*cking don’t pass by. It’s a table where I have no clue why people spend money on.”

• OP: “From the picture, it totally seems like a corner table LOL.”

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• OP: “Agreed.”

• MD: “What’s more is that it was around [time] then, and we don’t normally put the curtains down then. We only put the curtains down around closing time. We put them down because they asked.”

• OP: “That’s so people don’t know they came. What alcohol did he drink? Did he drink a lot?”

• MD: “F*cking cheap stuff. LOL.”

• MD: “Oh right, he earns so much but he only spend a paltry [redacted]. He could’ve spent more.”

• OP: “FR? LOL, what did he do there? Bet he didn’t go just to listen to the music.”

• MD: “He just f*cking hung out with girls and drank a lot with them, then it all ended at 4am.”

• OP: “Did he choose the girls?”

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• MD: “Of course. They asked for girls to be brought to their table, and then they chose to let them stay or go.”

• OP: “What is his taste like?”

• MD: “Well, we call such aesthetics [redacted]. Plastic monsters LOL.”

• OP: “LOL did you name such aesthetics after [redacted]?

• MD: “Yeah, you know how it is. Eyes bam! Nose bam! Lips bam!”

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The same MD also gave tip-offs that he allegedly visited on June 5, 2024, as well, the day before a public holiday in South Korea.



SEVENTEEN’s Mingyu Flamed After Being Accused Of Hanging With Girls At The Club

July 30th, 2024


In response to the allegations, (Korean) netizens seem to react tamely. Most did not appear surprised at the news.

"I’m sorry, but SEVENTEEN’s Mingyu practically lives at the club, hanging out with girls. So what? This is just such a given. It’s as certain as Shindong eating lots of food or how Yoo Ah In is gay."

"Who in hell doesn’t know that Kim Mingyu practically lives at the club and is a hannam who is crazy over girls? Please."

"If someone said Yoon Jeonghan went to the club, then it would be a scandal. Kim Mingyu going to the club? Not even surprising. There was talk about it on my timeline. Which club did he go to this time?"

Many netizens have taken the chance to comment on what they think is his regular personality.

"Bet the 97-fam all hang out like this! LOL. I’m the most annoyed at the one who acts all prim and proper."

Pannchoa comment on this:

"what I have seen it was:
1 posted by infamous anti who posted fake info before
2 he had schedule and live with fans that day at evening
3 next day at early morning he had flight
4 photo does not look like mingyu at all"

Carats are aware of this person and there's these tweets of a carat trying to start a block and report campaign against them.







Fan Spills On Partying With SEVENTEEN’s Mingyu And THE8

January 24th, 2025


SEVENTEEN are currently in Singapore for the upcoming dates of their RIGHT HERE world tour. The idols will perform at the National Stadium in Kallang on January 25 and 26th.

A fan shared that they had come to the country for SEVENTEEN’s concert but went to a bar and club lounge called Celavi to celebrate their birthday. While there, she claims to have ran into THE8, who had a drink with her.


Who could believe it?
I came to Singapore for SEVENTEEN’s concert.
The night before that, I came to Celavi for my bday party and ran into The8!!!!!!!
He even chugged a drink with me.
But his bodyguard said no photos allowed.
We’re drinking alcohol with The8’s bodyguard now.

And Mingyu, too

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The OP alleged that she also interacted with Mingyu, saying that she had a drink with him as well. She said that she was able to hug both idols and added a clip from the night on the post.

Mingyu is here, too. I even had a drink with him. I’m really crying
It’s my bday party with The8 and Mingyu
I even hugged Mingyu and The8!!
— OP

She continued on about Mingyu, praising the idols visuals and height and added that she hugged him three times.

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I hugged Mingyu three times. He smelled so good, and he’s so soft, tall, and handsome. I have no regrets now. — OP

the post has been deleted from threads.

Tweet from the anti saseang from up above:



Twitter clip of Mingyu and The8 at a rooftop bar.

"Mingyu and The8 went to a Rooftop bar in Thailand, and not in a club. As seen in the video, they are with their bodyguards and manager. They went to Tichuca Rooftop Bar when Seventeen went to Thailand. "


@hitmanbangispig is most likely the worst type of sasaeng you can have which is a sasaeng that antis you and fucking hates your guts, but still for whatever weird ass reasons stalks you.

like there's stuff on their account of them hating on woozi and Hoshi and to some extent Seungkwan.

so clearly the pannchoa commenter was right that this person is an anti, but that doesn't mean that they don't also sometimes get or retweet tea.

The account was created in August of 2023 and they say that the reason for creating it is the girl that ppl think Joshua was dating. Apparently she's gotten married.



Translated by my phone:

"Miyoung, the originator of my account, are you getting married? Congratulations on your wedding."



"He's the third guy after Joshua. He's not the next guy."


Side point but the difference in comments here... homophobic Carats don't think lsh and Hoshi are real. That's why they don't care.

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There's also this.

"If you ask the most handsome person to pay with his card, who will you choose?"

Anti saseang reply:

"Girls' Generation Malicious Comments - Min Kyung Noona's Vaginal Video - Speculation Pregnant Woman's Seat"

Wonwoo, Mingyu and dk.







On their spin spin it says garrett out.

"Garrett is a really famous nerd"



If I had to guess this is someone that was a Carat and then became an anti after Joshua's dating rumors came out.

There's nothing at all on their page about them liking another group. typically antis hate you because they prefer someone that you are essentially competing against and there's no evidence of them being a girl group only fan or I don't know being an army. so most likely this is someone that went from being a saseang to an anti saseang of seventeen post dating rumors.

This type of sasaeng is the most dangerous because they feel betrayed by their idol and they make it their mission to bring you down.


 
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Ot4 97 line part 2:

97 line drama comments from reddit:

"yeah it's always jungkook, eunwoo, jaehyun and mingyu hanging out. didnt the friendship start with jungkook and yugyeom at first?"

"True, Yugyeom might be closer to his AOMG hyungs and dance crew as compared to his 97 liner friends. Still we don't exactly know as Yugyeom is a very private person, barely on social media except to upload updates of him dancing or making a new song with Gray. Maybe they still communicate but it's been years since they were seen hanging out."

"I wonder if Yugyeom and Jungkook are still friends. Jungkook has been spotted hanging out with various 97-liners in recent years, but not Yugyeom, I think? It makes me a little sad to think they might have drifted apart since they started out in the industry at the same time."

I find it interesting that 97 line don't hang out with BamBam and Yugyeom anymore.

Obviously BamBam has been doing solo work in Thailand and on tour but Yugyeom has been working in Korea. He hasn't gone to the military yet. So like what is their excuse for not including him?

I know that someone had previously tried to make the argument that 97 line was an all bisexual men friend group but I don't think so?🤷🏻

It's also very telling that the two more obviously queer ppl basically got kicked out/excluded.

If ot4 97 line r all queer or 3 queer guys and a token straight friend or two queer guys and 2 straight guys then it's a "there a queer/gay men and then there r men who have sex with men" thing. Them excluding the more obviously queer ppl feels like an intentional thing that's being done for their image and probably driven by hybe/sm. Maybe they agree with that direction, maybe they don't.

Jungkook not staying friends with ppl post bts becoming the biggest band in the world makes sense but what about the 3?

also jungkook has never said anything pro queer rights to my knowledge (also went to Qatar). (I've never been an army so I'm not the best person to quote though.)

and it's the same for the other 3.

Whereas the got7 members of 97 line:

755


755




I don't love the insinuation that they stopped hanging out with certain people because they're gay. The original 97 liners (at least the ones that Jungkook name dropped) was Jungkook/Yugyeom/BamBam/DK/The8/Mingyu anyway, so they stopped hanging out as a group with more than just "the gay ones" I guess since pretty much nobody thinks Seokmin is gay. Even among his own group, Mingyu is particularly close with The8 and Seungkwan who obviously ping for a lot of people.

That being said I don't know if Yugyeom and BamBam are even that widely regarded as queer since I don't follow Got7 and I only really remember seeing Jackson imply he's bi many times. Anyone want to weigh in on if there's receipts for them?

Eunwoo only joined the group properly later on and I think it's pretty obvious that the group looks the way it does now because the ones who stuck together had a common interest in going to clubs? It can be hard for friend groups to stay close without a common activity and if a certain chunk of the group starts doing this specific social outing a lot, it's sort of obvious that the group would split.

I don't think it's all that sad or surprising that some of them drifted apart, not every friendship is really meant to last a decade. I imagine a lot of friendships between the BTS members didn't survive their western run for various reasons anyway.

@sg97 @MlCKEY

@fo_lia_ge i have more donghae tea but i want to finish this.

Okay so I got approval to post the tarot tea from sm maid.

And approval to post some Taehyun and Yeonjun tea.

This is all my Mingyu at the straight clubs receipts.

Ot4 97 line part 3: Mingyu

Netizens Defend SEVENTEEN’s S.COUPS And Mingyu For Going To A Club


September 10th, 2022

S.COUPS and Mingyu were recently spotted at a club during their North American tour.

The sighting was corroborated with another local on TikTok, who claimed that she had seen the boys enter as she was leaving.

After the sighting, a man called Jason stepped up to spill the beans on what had gone down at the club.

According to Jason, Mingyu had seen a Korean girl being twerked on by Jason. The Korean girl was Jason’s girlfriend. He later asked the girl for permission to smack Jason’s butt. They even bought the couple and their friends some drinks.

This is a tweet responding to someone saying to stop spreading a "rumor":

"A girl who was leaving as they were entering very clearly recognised Mingyu. The dude keeps saying Mingyu's name, he probably introduced himself. Most of us know Decades isn't a gay club, but you can calm down and stop acting like if he were gay it would be awful."

SEVENTEEN’s Mingyu Accusations Of Allegedly Asking For Girls To Be Brought To Him At The Club Go Viral

July 30th, 2024


A netizen exposed a series of text messages exchanged with a club MD. An MD is someone who deals with table bookings and VIPs.

The MD sent a video of Mingyu allegedly at his table.

(Btw this op is probably a saseang.)

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• OP: “He’s just f*cking looking at his phone a lot LOL.”

• OP: “It’s been a long time since he has his fringe down.”

• MD: “Ah, he purposely booked a table where people f*cking don’t pass by. It’s a table where I have no clue why people spend money on.”

• OP: “From the picture, it totally seems like a corner table LOL.”

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• OP: “Agreed.”

• MD: “What’s more is that it was around [time] then, and we don’t normally put the curtains down then. We only put the curtains down around closing time. We put them down because they asked.”

• OP: “That’s so people don’t know they came. What alcohol did he drink? Did he drink a lot?”

• MD: “F*cking cheap stuff. LOL.”

• MD: “Oh right, he earns so much but he only spend a paltry [redacted]. He could’ve spent more.”

• OP: “FR? LOL, what did he do there? Bet he didn’t go just to listen to the music.”

• MD: “He just f*cking hung out with girls and drank a lot with them, then it all ended at 4am.”

• OP: “Did he choose the girls?”

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• MD: “Of course. They asked for girls to be brought to their table, and then they chose to let them stay or go.”

• OP: “What is his taste like?”

• MD: “Well, we call such aesthetics [redacted]. Plastic monsters LOL.”

• OP: “LOL did you name such aesthetics after [redacted]?

• MD: “Yeah, you know how it is. Eyes bam! Nose bam! Lips bam!”

GTnnwYebgAA1ae3.jpg


The same MD also gave tip-offs that he allegedly visited on June 5, 2024, as well, the day before a public holiday in South Korea.



SEVENTEEN’s Mingyu Flamed After Being Accused Of Hanging With Girls At The Club

July 30th, 2024


In response to the allegations, (Korean) netizens seem to react tamely. Most did not appear surprised at the news.

"I’m sorry, but SEVENTEEN’s Mingyu practically lives at the club, hanging out with girls. So what? This is just such a given. It’s as certain as Shindong eating lots of food or how Yoo Ah In is gay."

"Who in hell doesn’t know that Kim Mingyu practically lives at the club and is a hannam who is crazy over girls? Please."

"If someone said Yoon Jeonghan went to the club, then it would be a scandal. Kim Mingyu going to the club? Not even surprising. There was talk about it on my timeline. Which club did he go to this time?"

Many netizens have taken the chance to comment on what they think is his regular personality.

"Bet the 97-fam all hang out like this! LOL. I’m the most annoyed at the one who acts all prim and proper."

Pannchoa comment on this:

"what I have seen it was:
1 posted by infamous anti who posted fake info before
2 he had schedule and live with fans that day at evening
3 next day at early morning he had flight
4 photo does not look like mingyu at all"

Carats are aware of this person and there's these tweets of a carat trying to start a block and report campaign against them.







Fan Spills On Partying With SEVENTEEN’s Mingyu And THE8

January 24th, 2025


SEVENTEEN are currently in Singapore for the upcoming dates of their RIGHT HERE world tour. The idols will perform at the National Stadium in Kallang on January 25 and 26th.

A fan shared that they had come to the country for SEVENTEEN’s concert but went to a bar and club lounge called Celavi to celebrate their birthday. While there, she claims to have ran into THE8, who had a drink with her.


Who could believe it?
I came to Singapore for SEVENTEEN’s concert.
The night before that, I came to Celavi for my bday party and ran into The8!!!!!!!
He even chugged a drink with me.
But his bodyguard said no photos allowed.
We’re drinking alcohol with The8’s bodyguard now.

And Mingyu, too

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The OP alleged that she also interacted with Mingyu, saying that she had a drink with him as well. She said that she was able to hug both idols and added a clip from the night on the post.

Mingyu is here, too. I even had a drink with him. I’m really crying
It’s my bday party with The8 and Mingyu
I even hugged Mingyu and The8!!
— OP

She continued on about Mingyu, praising the idols visuals and height and added that she hugged him three times.

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I hugged Mingyu three times. He smelled so good, and he’s so soft, tall, and handsome. I have no regrets now. — OP

the post has been deleted from threads.

Tweet from the anti saseang from up above:



Twitter clip of Mingyu and The8 at a rooftop bar.

"Mingyu and The8 went to a Rooftop bar in Thailand, and not in a club. As seen in the video, they are with their bodyguards and manager. They went to Tichuca Rooftop Bar when Seventeen went to Thailand. "


@hitmanbangispig is most likely the worst type of sasaeng you can have which is a sasaeng that antis you and fucking hates your guts, but still for whatever weird ass reasons stalks you.

like there's stuff on their account of them hating on woozi and Hoshi and to some extent Seungkwan.

so clearly the pannchoa commenter was right that this person is an anti, but that doesn't mean that they don't also sometimes get or retweet tea.

The account was created in August of 2023 and they say that the reason for creating it is the girl that ppl think Joshua was dating. Apparently she's gotten married.



Translated by my phone:

"Miyoung, the originator of my account, are you getting married? Congratulations on your wedding."



"He's the third guy after Joshua. He's not the next guy."


Side point but the difference in comments here... homophobic Carats don't think lsh and Hoshi are real. That's why they don't care.

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There's also this.

"If you ask the most handsome person to pay with his card, who will you choose?"

Anti saseang reply:

"Girls' Generation Malicious Comments - Min Kyung Noona's Vaginal Video - Speculation Pregnant Woman's Seat"

Wonwoo, Mingyu and dk.







On their spin spin it says garrett out.

"Garrett is a really famous nerd"



If I had to guess this is someone that was a Carat and then became an anti after Joshua's dating rumors came out.

There's nothing at all on their page about them liking another group. typically antis hate you because they prefer someone that you are essentially competing against and there's no evidence of them being a girl group only fan or I don't know being an army. so most likely this is someone that went from being a saseang to an anti saseang of seventeen post dating rumors.

This type of sasaeng is the most dangerous because they feel betrayed by their idol and they make it their mission to bring you down.



I'll be honest I don't think it's that necessary to post all of this stalker anti's posts here when they're mostly not topic relevant. I can't stop you or anything, but a lot of this info is gained pretty unethically and I mean the fact that the 97 guys go to clubs is well known and knowing exactly what clubs, when, and what they do there isn't really necessary for understanding the general info, y'know? Especially since some of this is obviously fake like the girl saying she met Minghao/Mingyu, I don't see the point in posting it?
 

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I'm confused who is this sm maid. I tried to find their blog but couldn't find anything

i want to read that nsfw tea:darkkermit:
Sm maid is a mod. U can't post links to 18+ fanfics here. I wanted to be sure that the tarot tea wouldn't fall under that rule somehow.

This is it.

⚠️FYI english isn’t this person's first language so any spelling mistakes etc are theirs. Also tw they post about what idols like sexually (there r some things on here in that regard that I don't agree with or condone.)😬 so keep that in mind. Click on those posts at your own risk. ⚠️

The nfsw posts are done through birth charts so it isn't her sitting there asking the cards if jungkook rolls over and goes right to sleep after or if he gets you a glass of water. Birth charts r bit more ehh🤷🏻 imho compared to asking a proper question with the cards like when will bts have a comeback or a tour.



I've only ever looked at aepsa's because I'm not a big fan so there's a level of distance.

Giselle not being into other Asian ppl makes sense because she went to an international school in Japan with like the kids of white diplomats and I've read her wattpad fics and the guys always had the whitest of white names. Andrei. Zachary Evan Preston.


I would bet a million dollars that she had an outsiders phase. If she had kept going it might have been a bl.

Late at night when im on the 🚽 i remember "west Canada" and i laugh.

 
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I have...an opinion on how heechul could be either straight or still be someone who likes women but queer but I have a feeling I'm going to get pushback.

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Do you think heteroflexible like I do? I am utterly confused by heechul, but his relationship with hangeng will never not ping me lol.
 
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I will be posting a proper response to your points (re: gay face and neurodiversity) but right now the news is freaking me out so I will be making a meta post about it after this.

But for right now yes to spoilers for triggering things. The formatting here is a bit of a learning curve. And with text walls; though I do worry that some ppl just don't bother to open it and keep scrolling.

Re: more activity and excitement.

I can not stress enough that I have so many notes and bookmarks and topics that I've been thinking about since 2023 so it's just like "🗣here take my opinions and receipts!!!!!🤾🏻"

Kpop is my only fandom now so it's obviously something I think about a lotttt.

Plus I've only ever met 1 other kpop fan irl and they are queer but not nd and I don’t have any social media accounts because trans so meeting 2 nd kpop fans that are also queer (I'm pretty sure @MlCKEY is. I'm not sure if u r @sg97?) Is like 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤗🥳😭.

"Finally ppl who will like noise music bgs that do a lot of bl fan service and have a lot queer members!"

Most ppl on ht r gg only fans and I always see ppl make fun of bg noise music on reddit and pannchoa. And saying that bl fan service is cringe/gross.

Re: deluge/text walls.

As I previously said back on oh and there was a previous crew that would question ppl a lot and call ppl who turned out to be queer cis het bl fangirls when they disagreed with them. And so many ppl would just react with 🤡 or 💀 and then wouldn't explain why they disagreed.

So it made me feel like I had to come with college thesis paper level receipts instead of only ~vibes~. Also talking (writing) fast and a lot about ur special interest is a nd trait.

Also thanks 4 saying u aren't trying to be exclusory. I have rejection sensitivity dysphoria and you're someone who's words/opinions I've personally admired so your first post triggered that and I was like "see he probably thinks you're a cringe jobless loser and a baby. U shouldn't have left lurkdom!"





Also queer spaces irl and online can often still be ableist.
So while having a cishet neurotypical person call u a

R worded f*g


Can hurt it hurts even more when that ableism comes from within the queer/trans community.

Being discriminated against by your own kind fucking sucks. It makes you feel like you'll never fit in anywhere.

It's something I was worried about and it kept me from joining in for a long time. (That and the hypothetical potential of transphobia.)

I'm not saying anything u said was outright ableist but because I can't hear your tone/u didn’t use emojis the FIRST post comes off a bit..."go play somewhere else" ?... So thank u for clarifying!🙂

And I have considered asking for a disability thread but similar to how there was some push back for this thread in the beginning I was worried ppl would clown on it. Or that it would be restricted to users talking about their disabilities instead of idols physical/developmental disabilities (the boyz adjust their choreography for Hyunjae
because his spine is too straight, it's a congenital condition, which is why he sometimes performs their choreography differently than the others. Some moves would be too dangerous for him to attempt.) and mental health as well.

Also a group of nd ppl sitting around talking about like an nd idol’s Pokémon card collection or the design of their animal crossing house/island doesn't do anything to educate ppl about what it's like to be nd and the ways in which we can make really good idols and be happy doing it and its easier for us than a 9 to 5 office job but also how nd idols need more mental health support.

Nd ppl are more likely to struggle with substance abuse, Eds and self harm. Self exit is the #1 way nd ppl leave this world.

While I can appreciate u not wanting to step on anyone's toes because you aren't nd yourself, I at least am someone who's comfortable answering questions (even if u think they sound silly or mean. U just have to write something like genuine question: blah blah blah and maybe post it in random thoughts or dm me) about being nd or if I think an idol is on the team.

And just tbc I'm not someone who goes around "head cannoning" every introvert idol as nd. A lot of nd ppl are extroverts actually.

I have to see/read about them displaying more than just 1 or 2 traits and if I'm actually in that group's fandom spaces how the fans treat them (Re: omg uwu he's such a baby or omg he's so fucking cringe and annoying. His reactions are too over the top.) and if nd fans of the group think that person is nd (re: Jungkook) before I feel comfortable saying I think this person is nd.

It comes up when talking about queerness because of the previously mentioned correlation between queerness and neurodiversity and because for some ppl I can't find 1 really definitive queer receipt but I have receipts of ppl talking about that person being a "4d alien" and then some minor queer receipts so it's 1 of those things where when you put this all together it means there's a reasonable chance of them being queer. It's basically just +1 point towards queerness.

(A good example is Nickhun. U asked about him awhile ago and nobody answered you and I was sick over the Christmas holidays so I ended up doing a 2pm deep dive. Like all the way to bottom of the google search level. On all of them.)

Shit this is long.🙇🏻 Other things r happening so hopefully I will respond by Thursday.

Forgive the late nature of this reply. Life happened.

Worrying about people scrolling is a non-issue. If people are interested, they'll consume. Leave those who aren't free to peruse more easily.

I came off as dismissive because it's a lot of posting. I have no ill will nor intent against you or your identities. Things just need to start on topic and the space needs to open to everyone and not overwhelming for our quieter users.

The things with "college level receipts" is also misplaced. Nothing posted here should ever be seen as undeniable proof unless it's literally the person coming out. There is no thesis. And rarely are receipts actually receipts. That's just how it goes. There's always a rush of clowning. Even without the reaction present.

Discrimination comes in many forms and is rare for someone in the lgbt community to not have been discriminated against by the community itself in some way. It is not an ableist only situation. Please remember that.

I understand having a severe relationship with rejection. Unfortunately, that is not something the thread can accommodate. It is a place of discussion. As such, disagreements happen. It is a non-bigoted space, but it cannot be considered a completely safe space when involving people with differing experiences. That is something you have to be prepared for as neither I nor Mlckey can do anything about that. Bullying is a different matter, but that's not being discussed.

A disability thread is a fine suggestion or a neurodiversity thread. Again, though, focusing on such things in this thread is simply going off topic a lot of the time. As is answering questions about neurodiversity without direct relation to queerness. If people are dming you and you're willing to educate based on your experience, that's great. I'm all for people learning.

It's good you're enjoying yourself. Just be mindful of what, how much, and how often you post and there won't be issues. It has been a bit much at times.

And, again, sorry for the late response.
 
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Yeah things getting deleted is why a short description or summary can be nice. If you want to claim the LGBTQIA+ thread you can request to be OP, there should be a link to the request form somewhere in the site rules or FAQ I assume.

If you're talking about Korean media I think its fine under spoiler since we do talk about BLs, dating shows, etc here sometimes. I know the title of the thread is kpop but we obviously talk about actors a lot so any k-media is fairly on topic.

Iirc the Mashiho post was pretty vague anyway and I think him deleting it may have been because so many people interpreted it as him coming out and it was unintentional.

Do you mean if I buy into tarot reading stuff? I don't but it doesn't matter if I believe it or not you can post whatever you like here as long as it's within reason. Just don't do eugenics I guess lol

If you mean do I think Jaehyun is straight? Idk I flip flop a lot about the 97z. Jungkook has pinged for me 0 times ever and I was never into Astro or Eunwoo in general to get a vibe from him (and it seems like it's changed a lot? He seemed very pretty and sweet when he was a rookie but there's been a clear "Cha Eunwoo is so masc and cool" narrative redirect which is kind of interesting in itself but I don't know him well enough to speak on if there's something more to that.

Jaehyun has never been in my biases but since I stan nct he's hard to avoid and idk he has his receipts and that one picture of him looking all demure with Troy Sivan scratched something in my brain but I can't say I'm very convinced of anything. Stans used to all say he had gay voice when speaking english and I definitely disagree there too like people have got to learn what actual gay voice sounds like (and how it is very much an intentional and/or learned thing for many). He has also had somewhat of an image rebrand similar to Eunwoo although Jaehyun never really had that soft of an image. For his solo debut lately though the heterosexual branding has been off the charts. I can't really say if it's just concept/an attempt to make him fit more inline with western pop artists or if it's an actual attempt to het-ify him.

I've stuck my neck out for het Mingyu many times but I could still pretty easily see him as queer. He did get the trendy korean gay man haircut for the seventeenth heaven promos after all. At the same time he does clearly see himself as slightly in the model world and short hair is pretty standard there so it could be all in the name of high fashion androgyny. You don't actually have to be gay to play around with gender norms in fashion.
Eunwoo got the actor treatment just like Jinyoung did. I would say it's less about them changing themselves and more, this is what I'm selling now. He has enough receipts for me to suggest bi. Like that damn queerfriend shirt.

Jaehyun gets accused of gay voice? It's definitely softer in English, but that's about it. I still can't get beyond him checking out dudes every other day on the sly though. I'd say his image shift was less severe than Eunwoo, but he did have some points in the "cute basket" back when he was maknae and earlier in 127 in general. Haha.
 

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Eunwoo got the actor treatment just like Jinyoung did. I would say it's less about them changing themselves and more, this is what I'm selling now. He has enough receipts for me to suggest bi. Like that damn queerfriend shirt.

Jaehyun gets accused of gay voice? It's definitely softer in English, but that's about it. I still can't get beyond him checking out dudes every other day on the sly though. I'd say his image shift was less severe than Eunwoo, but he did have some points in the "cute basket" back when he was maknae and earlier in 127 in general. Haha.
This video where he says "7 different songs with different colors :)" used to be a popular nctzen meme. I don't think he has gay voice personally but definitely some people were claiming that lol

 
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This video where he says "7 different songs with different colors :)" used to be a popular nctzen meme. I don't think he has gay voice personally but definitely some people were claiming that lol


Don't come for me, but I've always adored that clip. Lmao
 
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