Today was the final day for Carry of Major and CARRY LOOSE will disband on October 31st:
Watanabe has decided that disbanding CARRY LOOSE was the best scenario (a new song was recorded, the intro was actually leaked around the first month of Carry of Major), however
he wishes for the four of them to remain in WACK and to possibly start over.
this sucks
i can't say i'm surprised, they haven't been doing anything this year and even their formation was rushed because wack didn't know what to do with the ex members of BiS2, the excuse that he disbanded the group because they didn't have synergy sounds like BS
well at least they are still part of Wack and seems Watanabe has plans for them... we'll see
#FUCKWATANABE
even if he wants the members to stay, would they want too?
i was reading the messages from the members and at least the one from Pan Luna seems more like a goodbye
natalie.mu
but what could be done with them
Wagg? that's a group for trainees, it would be a slap to their faces sending them there
Mameshiba? unlikely they are going to add more members, specially since they would need permission from Avex
BiS? already got kick from there
maybe to PARADISES since they are open to adding more members, maybe GTTB too
also this is the 3rd time Yuina finds herself groupless, she deserves better
even if he wants the members to stay, would they want too?
i was reading the messages from the members and at least the one from Pan Luna seems more like a goodbye
CARRY LOOSEã解æ£ãã¡ã¸ã£ã¼ããã¥ã¼ç®æãå±åçæ´»ã¯æ¬æ¥çµäº
CARRY LOOSEã10æ31æ¥ä»ãã§è§£æ£ãããã¨ãçºè¡¨ãããã
natalie.mu
but what could be done with them
Wagg? that's a group for trainees, it would be a slap to their faces sending them there
Mameshiba? unlikely they are going to add more members, specially since they would need permission from Avex
BiS? already got kick from there
maybe to PARADISES since they are open to adding more members, maybe GTTB too
also this is the 3rd time Yuina finds herself groupless, she deserves better
Call Of Duty x BiSH live concert
also a commercial of BiSH playing call of duty + behind the scenes
also a commercial of BiSH playing call of duty + behind the scenes
the Mameshiba members get the challenge of building a perfect ball of tinfoil paper then Watanabe is going to judge each ball, the winner gets a prize while the loser has to drink the Kuro chan potion
the Tiary channel uploaded some new eps of the Mameshiba no taigun members visit
the Tiary channel uploaded some new eps of the Mameshiba no taigun members visit
Quixoticed
NuguI can kinda understand why he decided with this. Plus, we don't know what WACK has been doing in the background for CL (and honestly I feel like they were told about this before Carry of Major too) but since his tweet from August:this sucks
i can't say i'm surprised, they haven't been doing anything this year and even their formation was rushed because wack didn't know what to do with the ex members of BiS2, the excuse that he disbanded the group because they didn't have synergy sounds like BS
well at least they are still part of Wack and seems Watanabe has plans for them... we'll see
I can only assume he's been trying to get a bunch of contracts from major labels since then. And that they've been rejected by many since COVID has been hitting hard on the labels, this year definitely has a lack of groups/bands going major too.
It's still in the air but if they really did get rejected, I can see why Watanabe went with the "the group isn't good at it's current state" statement instead of straight up saying they didn't get any contracts. I can also put my money on that profits for the group (ironically) is a factor too
or maybe I'm just too optimistic in a way lol.I still wish they all remain in WACK, but I definitely feel bad for the girls Pan, Yuina, Yumeka and Uru since the option to get into a major depends on so many factors; from the higher ups (WACK Co) to the projected prospect of the group in the eyes of the label (to put it business wise).
(He's also presumably drinking out all his sorrows looking his tweets and his one Insta story of him singing out a Tower Records' staff name LOL)
On another note, Watanabe had a small Twitter thread with the owner of this Youtube channel since he was barraging all of Watanabe's tweets (calling him a c*nt and a dumbass for doing nothing for CL) and basically pointed out his Youtube channel. Owner of the channel seems to be privating the videos to avoid getting strikes from WACK himself lol.
- Joined
- Jun 17, 2019
- Posts
- 726
- Reaction score
- 690
- Points
- 8,120
- Location
- Ma-Me-Ma-Me-Ma-Me-Ma-Me-Ma-Me-Ma!
- Plus Coins
- ⨭366,985
Here's a short digest of BiSH's Call of Duty live.
As far as CARRY LOOSE is concerned, even though I like the members, I never felt like they justified their existence. They seemed like just another group that Watanabe put together for the sake of it. If he'd given them more direction, they could have turned into something. I also think he looked for a major label deal way too early. They still needed to grow more as a group. In their current incarnation, there wasn't a whole lot to offer. If I was him, I would move the members who want to stay in WACK over to PARADISES. Oh, and here's a thought. Maybe return Yuina Empire to Empire!!! Just sayin'.
As far as CARRY LOOSE is concerned, even though I like the members, I never felt like they justified their existence. They seemed like just another group that Watanabe put together for the sake of it. If he'd given them more direction, they could have turned into something. I also think he looked for a major label deal way too early. They still needed to grow more as a group. In their current incarnation, there wasn't a whole lot to offer. If I was him, I would move the members who want to stay in WACK over to PARADISES. Oh, and here's a thought. Maybe return Yuina Empire to Empire!!! Just sayin'.
- Joined
- Jun 26, 2019
- Posts
- 1,338
- Reaction score
- 2,126
- Points
- 22,120
- Location
- Sending Love to the World
- Plus Coins
- ⨭1,059,015
Although that's true, I think something could have been done with them, it doesn't seem to me like it was a lack of synergy but rather a lack of communication from Watanabe. Chemistry needs time to happen for anyone but they would need directives for to happen.
- Joined
- Jun 26, 2019
- Posts
- 1,338
- Reaction score
- 2,126
- Points
- 22,120
- Location
- Sending Love to the World
- Plus Coins
- ⨭1,059,015
EMPIRE --ERROR ERROR ERROR tour episode 4 at Nagoya
Last edited:
Quixoticed
NuguSame! I think that sentiment of "another group put together just for the sake of it" is a very accurate description for CL. I think the timing was fine, the way they kinda marketed it as BiS3's rival at first, but then there was absolutely no direction for the group after that. All they had was a title for "fun and emo group" in WACK, which I feel was what they were but then the lack of production budget and no new songs since the start of the year just made it all fall flat.
Hopefully there's more news coming up, instead of just radio silence til the 31st..
- Joined
- Jun 26, 2019
- Posts
- 1,338
- Reaction score
- 2,126
- Points
- 22,120
- Location
- Sending Love to the World
- Plus Coins
- ⨭1,059,015
I don't have a translation for it but I will post it anyway.
I can kinda understand why he decided with this. Plus, we don't know what WACK has been doing in the background for CL (and honestly I feel like they were told about this before Carry of Major too) but since his tweet from August:
I can only assume he's been trying to get a bunch of contracts from major labels since then. And that they've been rejected by many since COVID has been hitting hard on the labels, this year definitely has a lack of groups/bands going major too.
It's still in the air but if they really did get rejected, I can see why Watanabe went with the "the group isn't good at it's current state" statement instead of straight up saying they didn't get any contracts. I can also put my money on that profits for the group (ironically) is a factor too
I still wish they all remain in WACK, but I definitely feel bad for the girls Pan, Yuina, Yumeka and Uru since the option to get into a major depends on so many factors; from the higher ups (WACK Co) to the projected prospect of the group in the eyes of the label (to put it business wise).
I know people like to diss on Watanabe for doing these things, but it feels like he had/has a lot of hope for all four of them here (compared to BiS2 since the whole staff team decided on that first).
(He's also presumably drinking out all his sorrows looking his tweets and his one Insta story of him singing out a Tower Records' staff name LOL)
there is definitely the financial aspect, that said he does has connections with several small labels, sure he could ask them some favors and while they were aiming for a major debut with a big label i think even a small one would had been better than nothing
so i do think that he deserves some flack for the situation, if he had trouble getting them a contract then he shouldn't had turned this into a big public event, that only worked to get people even more invested in the group
yeah, i saw him fighting with the owner of the channel, part of the reason why i posted his upload instead of any of the others
i don't think Watanabe minds his role as wack's designated hatesink, he even encourages fans by repliying back, i just hope he does has plans for them and that his statement is not damage control to calm people
definitely too early, dunno if it was intentional or not but he ended turning getting a deal with a label into a ultimatum for the group
i don't think Yuina should go back to EMPiRE, i was really mad when she was transferred but in perspective i agree that she wasn't a good fit, Now, Maho and Mikina are what the group needed to get to the next level
good question what is going to happen now
Uruuru and Yumeka would fit very well in either Paradises or BiS, my choice would be Uruu > Paradises, Yumeka > BiS
and i think i would put Yuina in GTTB, i think they need a "soft" member like her
i wonder about Pan luna, seeing how many of her friends from wack already moved to other things, also there are her dreams of being a gravure model, i think she is the most likely to leave, i hope not
that said i don't worry much about the ex BiS members, all the members that left are doing great
this is EMPiRE's first tour since January
and if they finish the tour this/next month they would still have enough time for a new album in December!
speaking of tours, BiS also held their first tour since February
natalie.mu
Mameshiba starts their tour next month so only BiSH are left
GO TO THE BEDS are going to stream on Nico a special about their uninhabited island event
these are Japan time
ãã©ã¤ãã¬ãã¼ããBiSãæ±äº¬é½æ¸è°·åºããåãã¾ããã8ã«æã¶ãã«ç 究å¡ã¨è¸ã£ãåå¤å±ã¯ã³ãã³ã©ã¤ãï¼åç13æï¼
BiSãæ¬æ¥10æ18æ¥ã«æç¥ã»æ¥æ¬ç¹æ®é¶æ¥å¸æ°ä¼é¤¨ ãã©ã¬ã¹ããã¼ã«ã§ã¯ã³ãã³ã©ã¤ããKiLL YOur WiNTerxxx -but fall-ããéå¬ããã
natalie.mu
Mameshiba starts their tour next month so only BiSH are left
GO TO THE BEDS are going to stream on Nico a special about their uninhabited island event
these are Japan time
PARADISES announced the start of their auditions for new members, "PARADISES and WAgg's Wonderful Future -SHOWCASE-"
all Wagg members can enter the auditions, is going to be streamed on Nico the 31th while the showcase is going to be on November 14th
if i recall CARRY LOOSE last concert is also the 31th so i think is safe to say they can't enter
all Wagg members can enter the auditions, is going to be streamed on Nico the 31th while the showcase is going to be on November 14th
if i recall CARRY LOOSE last concert is also the 31th so i think is safe to say they can't enter
Quixoticed
NuguThat's the whole dilemma I think, they were still tied by T-Palette Records (a subsidiary of Tower Records, and some fans were speculating that's why Watanabe was singing out the specific Tower Records staff member's name on Instagram lol but obviously a big fistful of salt). So all we can do is wait for updates I guess, hopefully there's at least a graduation live lol
Loool, man's probably seething now since he just got banned from multiple Discord servers for bragging about trolling WTNB and BM-ing other usersyeah, i saw him fighting with the owner of the channel, part of the reason why i posted his upload instead of any of the others
I toootally agree, that's the thing with Watanabe he loves directly tagging/quoting users and he's done this before (2017 fiasco about the Orchestra song exchange, the BiS trade, the Pour Lui diet "scandal"...
). Though I feel like he's getting real tired of doing this now, looking at the meaning of I WANT TO DIE!!!!! and definitely felt it after this tweet of his
Last edited:
Quixoticed
NuguThe BiS Nagoya live on Sunday was so much fun and so emotional. I didn't get to render the whole concert but I clipped a few seconds of them when I had time.
I still think this is so goddamn impressive where 1000+ of the audience (or 1000+ crickets?) is doing squats together with the girls:
Toggy staring us down during Lovely Lovely:
Them performing their new song in Propaganda(secret track in the Imitation casette) "TOUCH ME", and Toggy almost crying at the end:
Monchan being adorable during the last few moments on stage:
I still think this is so goddamn impressive where 1000+ of the audience (or 1000+ crickets?) is doing squats together with the girls:
Toggy staring us down during Lovely Lovely:
Them performing their new song in Propaganda(secret track in the Imitation casette) "TOUCH ME", and Toggy almost crying at the end:
Monchan being adorable during the last few moments on stage:
Last edited:
- Joined
- Jun 17, 2019
- Posts
- 726
- Reaction score
- 690
- Points
- 8,120
- Location
- Ma-Me-Ma-Me-Ma-Me-Ma-Me-Ma-Me-Ma!
- Plus Coins
- ⨭366,985
I didn't mean to imply that the group didn't have chemistry. The members worked well together, but Watanabe ignored them too much so they never moved beyond their initial concept. They just needed time and attention to find out what their niche was.
in all fairness Pan luna stated that she didn't get along with Uruuru until they started living together, she didn't say much about Yumeka either
(crappy google translation)
CARRY LOOSEã解æ£ãã¡ã¸ã£ã¼ããã¥ã¼ç®æãå±åçæ´»ã¯æ¬æ¥çµäº
CARRY LOOSEã10æ31æ¥ä»ãã§è§£æ£ãããã¨ãçºè¡¨ãããã
natalie.mu
i think there is the fact that she and Yuina were friends since BiS while prior to CL she didn't have any connection to the others 2, so it sucks that this happened when the members just started getting close,
but i'm not too worried about what's next for them, worse case scenario they leave and join other company, if that happens they should try joining Dearstage, who seeing how Mew and Hana are doing, really seem to love the ex BiS2 members
Last edited:
Hanako / Muropanako is going to release a new single on October 28th
her first album on November 24th (digital version the 25th)
and first live concert on January 30th
she is also going to do a 10 hours live stream on October 24th
i don't know which is the connection here but a group released a MV about Aya
also she started a Youtube channel, here she is reviewing Gummy candies
her first album on November 24th (digital version the 25th)
and first live concert on January 30th
she is also going to do a 10 hours live stream on October 24th
i don't know which is the connection here but a group released a MV about Aya
also she started a Youtube channel, here she is reviewing Gummy candies