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[itzy]

I think team Very Very Very and team Swing Baby are the front-runners of S2 and both teams' members will likely make it into the final lineup + Nina & Riku

 

[Some]

My opinion about episode 4 .

Spoiler: Seaside fairies

Perfect performance i was smiling from the beginning till the end Igot goosebumps from their singing .
Nina : i'm surprised & glad she handled the leader position well she was fantastic
Mayuka : super cute and i'd glad she wasn't too nervous and showed a confident image of herself she did great
Akari : finally showed her true potential she was perfect
Riria : i'm glad he finally praised her i wanted to pat her on the back when she cried she was great

Spoiler: SunRise

I didn't hate but i didn't like it it like a group getting to win on music shows because of their popularity from their first two song even though their new song is average they win because they are popular here the girls didnt win a show but they got praise because they did good as individuals performance wise it was overrated tbh nina team was better
Mihii: she was stable but i wasnt impressed with her like i always do or like jyp did she was ok she couldve done better
Ayaka : she wasnt perfect but i agree she improved so much good job girlie
Rima: she shouldntve gotten that long ass rap because after it she became unstable they shouldve given some of it to ayaka since its originally sung by two girls i was excited for her to charm me like she did last mission bur no i didnt feel anything
Overall this felt like a really popular group performing their new song for the 7th time on music shows with their new member ayaka who improved alot since her audition

Spoiler: Results

Sigh he didn't explain why they won

 

[lusobr]

Part 2 will be released on Youtube much like part 1. Starting from next Friday, the 22nd at 7:00 PM Japan time.

On the 21st and the 22nd Sukkiri will do another spotlight on Nizi Project introducing team Riku and team Mako.

 

[WonderfulOnce]

My Thoughts on Team Sunrise & Team Seaside Fairies:

Spoiler

I personally think Team Sunrise (Miihi, Ayaka, Rima) very much deservingly earned their 2nd cube. I think both groups did amazingly well and met/exceeded expectations. TBH, I would've been happy regardless who won the cube this round because of how well both did. I can really see how much effort both teams have put in for their performance.

TEAM SUNRISE:

• Their team performed well, even to the point where I thought it was enough to be a debuted rookie idol group. They all perfectly matched with VVV, and had the performance to carry it. Energetic, bright, and eye-catching.
• I was disappointed to see how much criticism Ayaka was receiving from fans after the NiziKake previews. It's a valid comment that Ayaka is arguably one of the weakest vocalist members. However, her vocal journey from Season 1 to now, has shown great improvement which is what I, as a viewer, and JYP wants to see especially with such a small training period. Not to mention, her dance has also greatly improved as well from Season 1. Her "Precious Love" performance was just okay for me. I could still see her the improvement she made from Season 1, but that was nothing compared to her VVV performance. Today's presentation was the first time, Ayaka has really proved to me that she was more than charms and visuals. Many fans said stated that Rima stood out from this team. While yes, Rima shocked me with her vocal and rap, but for me, it was Ayaka who shined the most due to her undeniable improvement from Season 1 to Precious Love to Very Very Very. Miihi did well, but I did notice that her climax note sounded a bit flat.

TEAM SEASIDE FAIRIES:

• The performance was fresh, youthful, and fun much like how DTNA is suppose to be performed as.
• Knowing where these girls' skillset are, I do think they did justice while covering DTNA. Highlight was Nina's high note, which sounded like she sang effortlessly as well as the ending dance break. I did note a few members sounding breathless towards the end, but they understandably were dancing to DTNA.
• Akari's vocals seemed to have improved compared to S1 & Goodbye Baby performance. I agree with JYP's comments that Mayuka has the ability to make others smile. Riria did good, however I do hope to see her improve her breathing techniques. Nina's dance has improved well compared to her S1 performances, but I do still see some awkwardness here and there. I hope to see her dance skills grow even more. I think all girls did good, but no one was an absolute stand out member to me.

I mentioned above that Team Sunrise's performance was enough to be like a debuted rookie group, though Team Seaside Fairies performed well, there was a few things I felt missing compared to the team that won. Perhaps it was the extra 6 months of JYPE training Miihi & Rima has that made their performance better to me, but I do think that Team Sunrise did slightly better and more polished than Team Seaside Fairies. This unit round has so far really proved to me the girls are better together, than individually. In an area where a member lacks, for another member that's their area of strength. I think this is evident in both groups.


As for next week's performances...

• I personally am looking forward to Team Mako-Rio-Maya the most due to their dance skills, and I also happen to enjoy listening to JYP's Swing after seeing it performed on Sixteen. Knowing how well Mako & Rio's dance skills are, I am looking forward to their performance in particular.
• For Team Riku-Yuna-Momoka, I am predicting Riku who will be leading the group's performance. In my opinion, Riku has the best skills set compared to her team members. Heartshaker is not an easy song to sing due to such high notes in the chorus. However, even with those high notes, if the team can use their charms and energy to express the song, I think they will do well.

 

[BPiperDude]

My Thoughts on Team Sunrise & Team Seaside Fairies:

Spoiler

• Knowing where these girls' skillset are, I do think they did justice while covering DTNA. Highlight was Nina's high note, which sounded like she sang effortlessly as well as the ending dance break. I did note a few members sounding breathless towards the end, but they understandably were dancing to DTNA.

Spoiler

Don't know why but when I read this statement I had this vision of Nina in her old age and wheezing, barely able to breath on her death bed just to give her last words to everyone and instead pushing out a perfectly executed and resounding high note. It's like no matter what shape she's in or how tired and out of breath. She nails it.
LOL.

 

[lusobr]

Spoiler: Thoughts on episode 4

It was funny seing everyone scared to face off against Mako's team. Riku's reactions were so funny. Girl had a heart attack when she took that B out of the ball. Yuna had an out of body experience when she saw it too. Meanwhile Nina all happy because they dodged the bullet. It should be fun seeing if all their fear was justified next episode.

I kind of get how they divided the teams but I still think it was kind of underhanded. Some teams seem to have odds stacked up against them and it's not really a good way to get the best final group possible imo. I see JYPE wanted a strong vocalist in every team by making them the captains but they could have spread the top girls more evenly. I don't subscribe to the conspiracy theories a few people are floating around, but I still think the results are a bit obvious by just looking at the teams.

Having said that this first match was a lot closer than what I expected. I was thinking it would be a landslide victory but both performances were very close as far as quality goes for me. I think Seaside Fairies performed well, but you could still see their shortcomings. team Sunrise was a mixed back for me. They had a decent performance, but I don't agree with JYP on his reviews on almost anyone.

You could see Seaside Fairies had a lot of problems with formations. I feel like Nina is just a slow learner when it comes to dancing and that will always be a hurdle for her career in a girl group. Vocally though this is probably the strongest team and not only because of Nina. I think you got to hear how well both Riria and Akari can sing if they develop more in practice. Honestly if you put Mako, Miihi, Nina and Riku on a group that is already one of the strongest girl groups vocally, especially in Japan, and if you add in Riria and Akari with more professional training that can be an awesome vocal team. They have such pleasing voices and great tones just need more technique and experience to become more stable. I haven't heard from Mayuka the same potential in her voice but you never know. She still has a nice tone but I don't know how high she can go besides becoming more stable and hitting the right pitches.

Akari can't catch a break though. Luckily it doesn't seem her arm thing was a big deal, maybe just a sprain or something. Losing a few days of full dance practice isn't ideal but what can you do. I don't think it ended up affecting their performance, but I could be wrong. I feel like they did a better job than in their individual tests but you could still see their shortcomings. Akari personally did a way better job here. I think it's a mixture of another month of training, a better fitting concept and less pressure in a team environment. She still didn't do the full moves from the choreo, which none of them did, so I suspect they still have some conditioning to improve. But as I've said many times her and Riria have shown they can do the moves in practice in short bursts so my guess is once they are in good enough form they'll show us a more detailed stage. Vocally she had a very pleasing voice, but was not stable. She wasn't super pitchy but you still could hear her deviate on longer notes. Her dancing was good, very few awkward moments during transitions. She still has to rush a few moves to catch up, but when she manages to keep up with the choreo she isn't stiff and the moves look good. Great stage presence. This concept fits her way better. A great bright smile that fit the song very well. Very happy she got to show her talent. Hope this is a stepping stone for her continued improvement.

Dancing wise I was happy with Nina's showing. She was still stiff at parts and made a few mistakes but was way less noticeable than before. This choreo is a lot more active than anything she has done and it definitely had an effect on her singing, but she still sounded great. She couldn't do the full moves of the dance, but none of the girls could. The positive thing is from the level she was coming from this is a good improvement for the future and I feel that if she continues in this trend her skill will be more than enough to be in a girl group without holding them back. Not sure if she was out of breath or it was poor breathing technique but she sounded out of breath a few times. My guess is because of how much effort she had to put in the dance she ran out of breath at times so I won't knock many points off because of that. If we are strictly speaking about quality her individual performance was better but this one gave me more hope she can be in the final group with no problem, and I think JYP felt the same.

For Riria I was also happy with this performance. Much like the other girls she didn't do the choreo in full, but still did it well enough while not looking stiff or awkward for most of it. She flashed her vocal potential which is also a positive. She still had some parts she ran out of breath and you could tell, but that didn't disrupt her dancing and singing as much as in the first test. She is improving and I feel like the more she gets to train and perform the better she will get. She has a great tone and sounded more stable even with the tiring choreo and that makes me hopeful. Because she was less affected by the physical exertion she got to show more of her stage presence too.

I think that Mayuka from this group is the one that improved the least. I think her level is still the same as her individual performance. She did a better job in here, but her dancing was still a bit stiff and awkward in parts and her singing was still a bit monotone and lacked more flair. She isn't horrible at any of those things but she also seems like she needs the most time to improve. With Akari and Riria you can point to specific things that would immediately improve their performance and bring out something they have shown. Mayuka we need to dig in to her potential to see if she can show us that in the future. Her most impressive feature was her stage presence. Girl looked great the entire performance. She also ran out of breath singing a few times, but that is understandable given her lack of experience and the choreography of the song.

Overall I was happy with this performance, not perfect but you could see the girls improvement and effort. I was happy with how Nina did in something that required more dancing from her. I was glad both Riria and Akari could show more of their talent without being held back. It was great seeing Mayuka shining with her stage presence. This song was I think the second hardest. The concept is easy, but the choreo takes a lot and that impacts singing. The fact the girls performed it without glaring issues was a great showing for them, specially considering half the team was ranked at the bottom.

Sunrise team got imo the easiest song vocally and dance wise. The concept though is really tough. The overtly cute concept might seem easy to pull of for girl groups, but it is really hard to do without looking awkward and forced imo. I feel like putting Ayaka in this group was a bit of favoritism though. You gave Akari, Nina and Riria a very energetic song when one has issues dancing and the other two run out of breath and you give Ayaka the cute girl that is bad at dancing and singing the cute song that doesn't need a lot of dancing or singing. I can kind of see the concept matching for all the teams so I won't go full on Panama Papers here but still.

Miihi missing a week of practice is unfortunate, but if anyone won't suffer for it is her and Mako. This concept is right in her wheel house not to mention everything she has shown us up to now and the results were no different. She did a great job in every aspect. Did the choreo perfectly, no awkward moves, no stiffness, smooth transitions. Sang very well, great stage presence as always and sold the concept to a t. At this point I kind of feel that making Miihi do this kind of song and concept is a bit of a waste, but I also don't have any doubts or concerns about her pulling off any concept the future group might try so testing her is also not really something I have in mind. Also I don't see Miihi losing any test on the show in the future. Going up against her is basically a default loss at this point both because of her skills and JYP's bias.

Putting Ayaka in this song worked exactly as intended. That is not to say she didn't do her part. I was very impressed by how her dancing evolved. If this was the only performance you watched of her you wouldn't be able to tell how bad a dancer she was. Granted this choreo is a lot less demanding and simple, but she didn't look stiff or awkward at all. It makes me curious to see her doing a more intricate choreo to see just how much more she has improved. Comparing this to Precious Love you can see how much she has advanced. She missed the beat dancing a couple times, but nothing too big that was noticeable and she managed to pick it back up during it. Now vocally she was still very raw. She sounded very nasally, pitchy and unstable. I agree with JYP her dancing was night and day but I don't think you can ignore her vocal shortcomings. Concept wise and stage presence she did as well as I expected. It was truly a perfect song for her.

I disagreed the most with JYP on Rima. From the start I don't think I have agreed with JYP once about her. I felt like again her dance stood out negatively for me. Some of her moves were stiff and awkward. If I had to pick out the worst dancer from this performance alone I would have to pick her. Now it could be nerves because she was even shown to be super nervous by the editing team. I'm gonna have to keep my eye on this. I didn't think of her as having issues dancing but the last 2 performances a few moves of hers caught my eye for being stiff and awkward. Again I don't think she is a bad dancer, and for the most part she dances well, but every once in a while something doesn't look right. It's mainly with her steps and leg movements too. I also think she had some issues with the concept. There were times her expression looked concerned more so than anything else. Not sure if the overtly cute concept is something she is confortable with. She seems cute herself in more of a dorky tomboyish kind of way. Again I wouldn't give her performance a bad grade, overall she did fine but here or there I saw things that needed some correcting.

In the end I thought both performance were similar in caliber. Not perfect, but good. If we were grading individually Miihi would take the cake and the win, but since this is a team mission I would have personally given the edge to Seaside Fairies. Mainly because no one stood out negatively. Ayaka's vocal levels though took you out of the performance for a bit meanwhile the flaws in the first team didn't distract you from the show. Don't think it's too big of a deal JYP gave the win to Sunrise, but slightly disagree with him here. It felt like the balance was slanted towards Miihi and Ayaka though at the end.

And that is why I dislike the 2 times at the bottom you are out. Judging is arbitrary by nature and when you seemingly only have 1 person making the choice this time it makes bias way too determinant. I still wish all girls could debut, but am aware the chances are low.

If we are talking about who is ready to debut I think we are sure about 2 people. Miihi and Mako. From the performances we have seen so far I can say Maya and Rima are next in line. We just need to see how Maya does in more stages and different concepts and I want to see Rima clean up some of her dance moves. After that I would put Rio, Riku and Nina as being close but missing 1 thing. Then I would put Riria, Yuna and Akari next as girls I see potential but they have to show me they can reach it overcoming their individual hurdles. After that I would slot in Mayuka as someone who has to grow her skills more then Momoka and Ayaka in this order as girls who need a lot of work. Now this is only based on dancing and singing skills. Girl groups debut members for different reasons and they always have members who technically aren't ready skills wise but for other reasons would be good to have in the group. This is just my personal outlook on how the girls stack up in that aspect.

I also don't get this change in JYP to be positive only. I personally don't mind him being harsh and critical of the girls in the evaluations. That is how you give people constructive criticism on how to improve. I think you actively stunt their growth if you ignore their mistakes in order to spare their feelings. Now I understand you wanting the girls to have confidence but I think in this line of work you need to be able to handle criticism. Be productive and accurate or not. I wish he would word some of of what he says better, make less assumptions and be less vague, but I don't think being exclusively positive is gonna be better for the girls now or in their future. Good teachers are the ones that care enough to point out what you did wrong so you can fix it, the ones that push you to be better. There are several ways of doing that and you can be nicer doing it, but avoiding it isn't the answer imo.

For next episode I am very curious to how Swing Baby team does. It seemed like JYP was jamming to a performance, and running the risk of reading too much into it, it looked more like the Swing Baby rhythm than Heart Shaker. Also am a bit apprehensive about Riku's team. Yuna's confidence is already shot, and Momoka's also seems so. Riku surprisingly looked very down a few times practicing for Who's Your Mama and finding out they are going head to head with Mako's team. Confidence is a huge deal for performance. I won't speculate too much though.

 

[grandmajudy]

Spoiler: Ayaka's Vocal Coach

 

[grandmajudy]

 

[HerefortheThrone]

Akari sling?? Lol

 

[BPiperDude]

Akari sling?? Lol

i can just see it. Nizi's first CF staring Akari. Medical patient gear for the fashionable.

 

[itzy]

Even though it's unlikely that all 13 will debut, I'm looking forward to seeing what opportunities being on the Nizi Project will land them. I imagine other companies are keeping a close eye on the contestants in hopes of scouting them, especially since they're on a show affiliated with JYP. Lowkey hoping Momoka can sign with Starship and debut with Annyeongz in 2021 since it's rumoured she gets eliminated

 

[grandmajudy]

Rino Sashihara, graduated AKB star current HKT48 theatre manager, tweeted about Nizi

 

[Some]

Rino Sashihara, graduated AKB star, tweeted about Nizi

Another Big Deal tbh sasshi is even bigger than daigo if you open the tv in japan youll find her you change the channel youll find her daigo is more legendery star / senior sasshi is one of the icons of this generation imagine if she talked about them in a show or two even old(as in age ) celebreties will know about them . Dont know how to translate litterally but what i got from her tweet is is sasshi also waits till the hulu episode and tries to avoid spoilers as much as possible this is my understanding

 

[BPiperDude]

So looking for theories on when the actual debut will happen and in what format.

Format I think it will be an EP/Mini album with physical sales. Physical sales are highly desirable for Japanese market and I know JYP himself values album sales more than digital sales. Total songs I'm thinking will be 5 to 8 to make sure the physical sales are good and also anticipating at least one of the songs being in Korean and not Japanese to try and get some traction in the Korean market.

Air date. If I look at how things were done previously the end of season 2 on Hulu will most likely be Jun 26th and the last episode as aired on JYP's channel will be July 24th. To me at least it doesn't make sense to start the Realty show until the 24th of July at the earliest. Givea a month of time for them to have footage to use and gives time to edit etc... It may be a few weeks later but don't see it starting before that. If we only have 6 episodes of the reality show they end in August or if they do 10 which I think is a bit much for a reality TV show it ends at the end of September. This leads me to speculate that it will be October when the group debuts and not November.

Also with JYP other projects we have Twice beginning of June and Stray Kids end of june through July. Itzy I'm guessing at the end of August through September. This leads me to think the actual debut date will be around mid October-ish. MV shot around middle of August.

Any other takers on this guessing point?

 

[Divine]

I'm glad to see the girls are getting a lot of exposure. The hype for their debut will be big.

So looking for theories on when the actual debut will happen and in what format.

Format I think it will be an EP/Mini album with physical sales. Physical sales are highly desirable for Japanese market and I know JYP himself values album sales more than digital sales. Total songs I'm thinking will be 5 to 8 to make sure the physical sales are good and also anticipating at least one of the songs being in Korean and not Japanese to try and get some traction in the Korean market.

Air date. If I look at how things were done previously the end of season 2 on Hulu will most likely be Jun 26th and the last episode as aired on JYP's channel will be July 24th. To me at least it doesn't make sense to start the Realty show until the 24th of July at the earliest. Givea a month of time for them to have footage to use and gives time to edit etc... It may be a few weeks later but don't see it starting before that. If we only have 6 episodes of the reality show they end in August or if they do 10 which I think is a bit much for a reality TV show it ends at the end of September. This leads me to speculate that it will be October when the group debuts and not November.

Also with JYP other projects we have Twice beginning of June and Stray Kids end of june through July. Itzy I'm guessing at the end of August through September. This leads me to think the actual debut date will be around mid October-ish. MV shot around middle of August.

Any other takers on this guessing point?

Since the way Japan promotions tend to work is they release the lead single/title track first and then a month later the actual EP will drop. So I think they'll release the lead single in August and then drop the EP in September in promoting it then. The only problem is I think Nizi is going to promote in SK as well so Idk how this will all work out.

Going off of what Itzy's music releases quantity is I think Nizi will follow the same path kinda. Unlike Itzy though Nizi will debut with an EP with probably 4 songs but they'll only be 2-3 new songs and the rest will be a remix/instrumental. I just feel like JYPE is very picky for their gg's music now since they have a highly favorable reputation and want to wait to see how the public takes the news songs before coming out with EP of 5-8 brand new songs. I hope I'm wrong but I see this happening.

 

[Whisky23]

So looking for theories on when the actual debut will happen and in what format.

Format I think it will be an EP/Mini album with physical sales. Physical sales are highly desirable for Japanese market and I know JYP himself values album sales more than digital sales. Total songs I'm thinking will be 5 to 8 to make sure the physical sales are good and also anticipating at least one of the songs being in Korean and not Japanese to try and get some traction in the Korean market.

Air date. If I look at how things were done previously the end of season 2 on Hulu will most likely be Jun 26th and the last episode as aired on JYP's channel will be July 24th. To me at least it doesn't make sense to start the Realty show until the 24th of July at the earliest. Givea a month of time for them to have footage to use and gives time to edit etc... It may be a few weeks later but don't see it starting before that. If we only have 6 episodes of the reality show they end in August or if they do 10 which I think is a bit much for a reality TV show it ends at the end of September. This leads me to speculate that it will be October when the group debuts and not November.

Also with JYP other projects we have Twice beginning of June and Stray Kids end of june through July. Itzy I'm guessing at the end of August through September. This leads me to think the actual debut date will be around mid October-ish. MV shot around middle of August.

Any other takers on this guessing point?

I don't see them debuting earlier than Nov, and I wouldn't be surprised if they delayed their debut. Most of the contestants will need that time to level up - even Twice took 4 month to debut after Sixteen, and they were all JYP trainees with years of training. While the Nizi girls have been making great progress, watching their stages made me realize how competent Twice and Itzy really are as idols - not only do they make the dances looks so easy, but they are also able to learn them quickly, make adjustments and remember changes to the routines in such a short span of time. That kind of competence takes time, and only the JYP trainees really have that experience under their belts at this point. Considering the hype and attention the Nizi girls have been getting, I think JYP will release them to the public only when they meet the requisite high standards and not before. I'm also worried that rushing the debut will put too much mental pressure on the less experienced members.

I'm also not sure they will air a proper reality show before debut. I can see them doing little segments or chat sessions on their YT / vlive channel to keep fans happy, much like Twice does now. But something similar to Twice's Elegant Private Life, or a reality show about their training progress leading up to debut I think is better POST-debut. For me, part of the buildup and surprise is to see how much they've grown and prepared themselves since final selection.

Also, 6 months is probably not enough time to be proficient enough to release music in Korean. As it is, the non-JYP trainees have so much to catch up and prep in terms of vocals / dance / conditioning / etiquette / public speaking / etc. that putting the added pressure of releasing in Korean seems a bit too much. Not to mention that it might generate mixed reactions in both Japan and SK. Twice might be able to get away with memorizing scripts and responses for their JP promotions, but I don't think Koreans, given their views on Japan, will be as accommodating. I do believe the girls will continue to learn Korean, and I do see them releasing something for the SK market in the future, but only after they have established themselves in JP and built up their fanbase, not on their debut release.

I can definitely see them debuting with limited songs, probably a single and maybe a b-side. They won't have to memorize and prep so many songs for debut, and they can bulk up their initial repertoire with Twice and Itzy covers, which they probably will have to learn anyway as part of their level-up training . Also, JYP aka Pakkichi writing / composing songs for them is a given, so all the JYP non-fans should mentally prepare yourselves LOL. He may not show up on their debut album, but he will eventually show up.

I more curious about their debut concept, music-wise and image-wise. Both Twice and Itzy will still be promoting in Japan, so they would have to be careful about overlapping. The logical move would be for Nizi to take over color pop / Twice 1.0, but that seems too predictable a move. JYP did say the words "Japanese Twice" back in the beginning, but I don't know if he meant that literally.

 

[grandmajudy]

 

[Divine]

I don't see them debuting earlier than Nov, and I wouldn't be surprised if they delayed their debut. Most of the contestants will need that time to level up - even Twice took 4 month to debut after Sixteen, and they were all JYP trainees with years of training. While the Nizi girls have been making great progress, watching their stages made me realize how competent Twice and Itzy really are as idols - not only do they make the dances looks so easy, but they are also able to learn them quickly, make adjustments and remember changes to the routines in such a short span of time. That kind of competence takes time, and only the JYP trainees really have that experience under their belts at this point. Considering the hype and attention the Nizi girls have been getting, I think JYP will release them to the public only when they meet the requisite high standards and not before. I'm also worried that rushing the debut will put too much mental pressure on the less experienced members.

I'm also not sure they will air a proper reality show before debut. I can see them doing little segments or chat sessions on their YT / vlive channel to keep fans happy, much like Twice does now. But something similar to Twice's Elegant Private Life, or a reality show about their training progress leading up to debut I think is better POST-debut. For me, part of the buildup and surprise is to see how much they've grown and prepared themselves since final selection.

Also, 6 months is probably not enough time to be proficient enough to release music in Korean. As it is, the non-JYP trainees have so much to catch up and prep in terms of vocals / dance / conditioning / etiquette / public speaking / etc. that putting the added pressure of releasing in Korean seems a bit too much. Not to mention that it might generate mixed reactions in both Japan and SK. Twice might be able to get away with memorizing scripts and responses for their JP promotions, but I don't think Koreans, given their views on Japan, will be as accommodating. I do believe the girls will continue to learn Korean, and I do see them releasing something for the SK market in the future, but only after they have established themselves in JP and built up their fanbase, not on their debut release.

I can definitely see them debuting with limited songs, probably a single and maybe a b-side. They won't have to memorize and prep so many songs for debut, and they can bulk up their initial repertoire with Twice and Itzy covers, which they probably will have to learn anyway as part of their level-up training . Also, JYP aka Pakkichi writing / composing songs for them is a given, so all the JYP non-fans should mentally prepare yourselves LOL. He may not show up on their debut album, but he will eventually show up.

I more curious about their debut concept, music-wise and image-wise. Both Twice and Itzy will still be promoting in Japan, so they would have to be careful about overlapping. The logical move would be for Nizi to take over color pop / Twice 1.0, but that seems too predictable a move. JYP did say the words "Japanese Twice" back in the beginning, but I don't know if he meant that literally.

I actually think JYP's music will work well with Nizi especially since he's pretty much creating this group. I find when he actually understands the group his music fits them much more i.e the masterpiece that was feel special.

 

[WonderfulOnce]

I thought it would be reveal on this week's episode, but I guess he is talking about a member from Team Mako or Riku. I think some of us thought it was going to be Akari, but it didn't happen.

Any guesses?

 

[Whisky23]

I thought it would be reveal on this week's episode, but I guess he is talking about a member from Team Mako or Riku. I think some of us thought it was going to be Akari, but it didn't happen.

Any guesses?

I'd guess Maya